Site Search:
 
Get TEFL Certified & Start Your Adventure Today!
Teach English Abroad and Get Paid to see the World!
Job Discussion Forums Forum Index Job Discussion Forums
"The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Students and Teachers from Around the World!"
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

They take your passport in Saudi!!!
Goto page Previous  1, 2
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> Saudi Arabia
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
jamal



Joined: 14 Nov 2004
Posts: 8

PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 6:14 pm    Post subject: How stupid is this! Reply with quote

Can�t find a job where you live. Leave your country of origin. Find a job in Saudi- with no qualifications for teaching for a lot of you guys. Save money that you never dreamt of in your country of origin. Complain about the 500 SR you have to pay for the Iqama. Then complain about this stupid passport issue.
You are never stuck in Saudi. Get a multiple visa, turn in your Iqama, and keep your d**** n passport with you. All of this for a drink or whatever in Bahrain. You don�t like it, get the h**** out of Dodge.


Last edited by jamal on Mon Mar 19, 2007 4:15 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
amity



Joined: 08 Mar 2007
Posts: 72
Location: central Texas

PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But wait! I have read the "official" advice of the U.S. government is never to surrender your passport to anyone. Why does the U.S. government not challenge this policy?

I was thinking of looking for a job in Saudi Arabia ...
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Sheikh Inal Ovar



Joined: 04 Dec 2005
Posts: 1208
Location: Melo Drama School

PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spot the difference ...

jamal on 16 Nov 2004 wrote:
Hi,

I have a BA majoring in English Literature, TESL, and Middle East Studies. I am also certified as a Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer, Microsoft Certified Professional, and A+. I have about 9 years experience, five of which in the USA teaching both native speakers and immigrants, teaching ESL , curriculum development, and computer assisted instruction.I also have few years experience working with computers and networks.

I am looking for a job preferably in Saudi Arabia. I think it is helpful to mention that I am a US citizen. My studies were completed in the US.

If you have a job opening where you work, I would like to hear about it.


jamal on 17 March 2007 wrote:
Can�t find a job where you live. Leave your country of origin. Find a job in Saudi- with no qualifications for teaching for a lot of you guys. Save money that you never dreamt of in your country of origin. Complain about the 500 SR you have to pay for the Iqama. Then complain about this stupid passport issue.
You are never stuck in Saudi. Get a multiple visa, turn in yourIqama, and keep your d**** n passport with you. All of this for a drink or **** in Bahrain. You don�t like it, get the h**** out of Saudi and go back to the bar where you crawled out of.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
007



Joined: 30 Oct 2006
Posts: 2684
Location: UK/Veteran of the Magic Kingdom

PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I am going to apply for US citizenship and complete my studies there! Laughing

Amity wrote:
But wait! I have read the "official" advice of the U.S. government is never to surrender your passport to anyone. Why does the U.S. government not challenge this policy?

U.S. passport is highly prized!
It depends who is this �anyone�?
But the US official statement is: �Do not surrender your passport to anyone other then a government official�.
Now, it depends on how you interpret the �government official�? That�s may be why the US government does not challenge the policy of SA government for holding your passport, because it is a foreign �government official�, also, the US government does not want to loose its political and economical interests in SA! Laughing

�Residents working in Saudi Arabia generally must surrender their passports while in the Kingdom. The sponsor (normally the employer) obtains work and residence permits for the employee and for any family members. Family members of those working are not required by law to surrender their passports, though they often do. Residents carry a Saudi residence permit (Iqama) for identification in place of their passports. The U.S. Embassy and Consulates General in Saudi Arabia cannot sponsor private American citizens for Saudi visas.� http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1012.html

I know that some of the US military people in SA do not surrender their passports to SA government!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
KSA-UK



Joined: 03 May 2005
Posts: 31
Location: Sandy Arabia

PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frenchies in ELT!!!
On aura tout vu... Very Happy
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Van Norden



Joined: 23 Oct 2004
Posts: 409

PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:21 pm    Post subject: Re: How stupid is this! Reply with quote

jamal wrote:
You are never stuck in Saudi.
What about Paul in Saudi? He's stuck here. (You can check out any time you want, but you can never leave.)

jamal wrote:
Get a multiple visa, turn in yourIqama, and keep your d**** n passport with you.
Not everyone can get a multi. And some of us with multis have to surrender our passports when we're back in KSA.

The passport issue is just one example of the many infringements of our (natural) rights that we endure when we come here. It makes you feel uneasy but you just get on with it, counting down the days and adding up the Riyals.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
007



Joined: 30 Oct 2006
Posts: 2684
Location: UK/Veteran of the Magic Kingdom

PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KSA-UK wrote:
Frenchies in ELT!!!
On aura tout vu... Very Happy

Salut mon bon homme!
Bien sure, Les fran�ais adore la pierre d�or. Laughing
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
also in saudi



Joined: 26 Feb 2006
Posts: 137

PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 3:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really?

I didn't know that.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Atassi



Joined: 13 Sep 2004
Posts: 128
Location: 평택

PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

amity wrote:
But wait! I have read the "official" advice of the U.S. government is never to surrender your passport to anyone. Why does the U.S. government not challenge this policy?

I was thinking of looking for a job in Saudi Arabia ...


Even Northrop Grumman, an American defense contractor, holds everyone's passsports in Saudi. I think it's simply a matter of whether or not you can trust your employer. Most of them are okay.

Besides, your passport may be safer with your employer than elsewhere.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Cleopatra



Joined: 28 Jun 2003
Posts: 3657
Location: Tuamago Archipelago

PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
But wait! I have read the "official" advice of the U.S. government is never to surrender your passport to anyone. Why does the U.S. government not challenge this policy?


I know some Americans find it bizarre and shocking, but US law does not actually apply outside that country's borders.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ootii



Joined: 27 Oct 2005
Posts: 124
Location: Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cleopatra wrote:
I know some Americans find it bizarre and shocking, but US law does not actually apply outside that country's borders.


Sufferin Succatash! Time for a regime change!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
abusalam4



Joined: 24 Feb 2007
Posts: 143

PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 1:05 am    Post subject: Re: How stupid is this! Reply with quote

jamal wrote:
You don�t like it, get the h**** out of Dodge.


No, I would say: why the hell be so crazy and go to work there? They can keep their desert, their money,I do NOT need it!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
bje



Joined: 19 Jun 2005
Posts: 527

PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
No, I would say: why the hell be so crazy and go to work there? They can keep their desert, their money,I do NOT need it!


More or less what I say about my 'home' country, Australia: "why the hell be so crazy to go to work there? They can keep their desert, their crappy pay for ESL teachers, I do NOT need it!"
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
SCHUBERT



Joined: 01 Oct 2006
Posts: 71

PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

and rumour has it that Australia is twice as glad to be rid of you (lol) Laughing
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> Saudi Arabia All times are GMT
Goto page Previous  1, 2
Page 2 of 2

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


This page is maintained by the one and only Dave Sperling.
Contact Dave's ESL Cafe
Copyright © 2018 Dave Sperling. All Rights Reserved.

Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group

Teaching Jobs in China
Teaching Jobs in China