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CELTA cost around the world
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amity



Joined: 08 Mar 2007
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Location: central Texas

PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:26 pm    Post subject: CELTA cost around the world Reply with quote

Is there a big difference in the cost of CELTA certification in other parts of the globe? I am finding it a little pricey for me right now in Texas, and am thinking of trying to take the course Seoul or wherever I wind up without it ... Can I save a bundle by putting it off until the price is right in a cheaper country?

Thanks for your help, everyone.
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tedkarma



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The price in Thailand - at the moment - is about US$1600.

Typically it is cheaper in certain countries. Programs are often expensive in Korea due to the very high cost of renting office space. I know at least one TEFL program was about double there what the same/similar program would have cost in Thailand.
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mlomker



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 2:46 pm    Post subject: Re: CELTA cost around the world Reply with quote

The problem with the 'cheaper country' approach is that you end up paying for flights, food, and housing during your course. I've done the math a few different ways and a more expensive local course vs. an overseas course tends to work out the same.

I guess the question is whether the novelty of taking it somewhere exotic seems better or not.
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Justin Trullinger



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends also on whether you're planning to work in the country where you do your cert. If this is the case (you'd be paying for flight, initial accomodation, etc, anyway) and overseas course can be a significant savings.

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Justin
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Stephen Jones



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thailand is probably the best place to do it if you are anywhere near. The cost is $1,400 and accommodation and living in Bangkok is reasonably affordable.
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mlomker



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Justin Trullinger wrote:
If this is the case (you'd be paying for flight, initial accomodation, etc, anyway) and overseas course can be a significant savings.


I guess it depends upon where you're planning to end up. Korea, China, and Japan all provide airfare and accomodation once you have the job. You need the TEFL prior to getting a job in some of these places, though...a catch 22 of sorts if you live far away from somewhere that you can obtain training.
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jademonkey



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From my limited research, it's about A$2500 in Australia, and I haven't found a place here that has it much cheaper than that.
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Joan



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My online TESOL course through Southern Cross University, NSW Australia is A$4000 (approx US$3000) This is for one semester full time, or two semesters part-time. As an Australian citizen, I only have to pay this back, by means of paying extra tax, if I earn over A$39,000.

The Cambridge CELTA course is around A$ 3000 here, if I remember rightly, for one intense month. Couldn't affor it myself.
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in_asia_bill



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats a complete waste of money Joan. Youve just thrown 1000s down the drain. Places that ask for a tefl cert dont accept online ones and places that accept online ones dont insist on you having a tefl anyway.
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Joan



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 2:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Southern Cross University is a proper university. My qualification will be exactly the same as if I had attended lectures - it is not one of those fly-by-night institutions that keep spamming us.
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in_asia_bill



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 4:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you aware that many countries and many employers do not recognise let alone accept online or distance qualifications?If it is online how can you have an observed teaching element?Unless you plan on teaching online then an online tefl 'certficate' is worth less than the paper it is printed off on.
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ilaria



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joan, is it the Graduate Certificate in Education (TESOL) - www.scu.edu.au/intoff.dds/index.php?action=download&mat_id=1706&site_id=3 ?

If so...

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The program involves a two-week professional experience placement, to occur during completion of the Pedagogical Practices for Teachers of English to Speakers of other Languages core unit. The placement may take place outside of Australia.


It doesn't state whether this will be observed. I imagine that Joan has to arrange her own placement.

It is a university programme but it doesn't seem to be accredited or moderated by an outside body such as RSA or Trinity. However, lots of legitimate university programmes don't bother with such accreditation.

The duration of the course is 'one semester' but it doesn't say how many hours of study are needed.

For teaching methods, it says
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each unit in this course is presented by a study guide and set of readings with the support of a tutor, and with online support for discussion boards, assignments, etc.

So there is some peer and tutor support, but evidently Joan will lose out on all the face-to-face interaction and observation which is so valuable on an on-site TEFL course.

I would have thought that a school that demands a 100+ hour TEFL course with 6+ hours observed teaching practice would just about accept this course. I probably would, but I'd ask some searching questions during the interview to make sure that the teacher had gained the necessary knowledge and skills during the course. It might be more valuable for a teacher with some experience than for a newbie - and the more experience Joan has as a teacher, the less important her actual type of certification will become.
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Joan



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, that's right. My own background is not teaching, though I've done some ESL tutoring, and workplace training. I'm an Honours graduate in German, with a BA in French and German from the University of Queensland. This course is the only type of course I can do, as I am currently caring for a sick husband. My aim is to get some part-time ESL teaching work locally next year, or simply do some private teaching.

The workload is 20 hours a week for the part time course. The practicum next semester can easily be arranged locally. The 14 students involved interact via the course's 'Blackboard', and a couple of us are arranging to meet in Brisbane. Those who live near Lismore NSW can see the tutors and coordinators, and use the library, of course. I have maintained my library priviledges at UQ, which is easier for me than sending for books.

Maybe it isn't the perfect TESOL solution, but it is the only solution that suits my immediate needs.
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ls650



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

in_asia_bill wrote:
Are you aware that many countries and many employers do not recognise let alone accept online or distance qualifications?
I don't believe this to be true. As far as countries go, the only ones I know of that will not except distance/online qualifications are Saudi Arabia and Taiwan. There may be others, but it isn't 'many countries'.
As for employers, some schools will care and some won't. I've noticed that most schools in Asia and Latin America that look for a TEFL certificate don't really care where it comes from: they just want you to have a piece of paper to show immigration for your work visa.
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Stephen Jones



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Online teacher training qualifications are normally looked on as irrelevant because there is no practicum involved.

Taking a theoretical course, and then doing some part-time TEFL is not the same thing, as there is nobody involved in supervising, commenting on and grading your teaching practice.
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