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suki_monster
Joined: 06 Feb 2007 Posts: 15
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Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 9:36 pm Post subject: Seto City in Aichi prefecture |
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| does anyone have any experience with this city, or know anything about it? is there anything to do? is it a nice? hahah i don't know, any help would be awesome. |
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markle
Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Posts: 1316 Location: Out of Japan
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 3:15 am Post subject: |
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I used to live down the line a bit in Toyota.
Seto is a satellite city of Nagoya therefore it has most of things you'll need but still leave you unfulfilled.
Really it depends on what you're into. Seto is really nestled in the foothills of the mountains NE of Nagoya so it's not far to go to get outdoors, but I'd say the nightlife was a bit dull. Still you can get into Nagoya quite easily. |
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suki_monster
Joined: 06 Feb 2007 Posts: 15
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 5:43 am Post subject: |
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| first, thanks for the response! i know nothing about this city other than what i have read online (and it's pretty generic reading). when you say "unfulfilled", what do you mean? me personally, i like reading and getting coffee, maybe walking/bicycling around exploring the area, etc. then at night, i like going out with friends to the same old bars we always go to. is there a decent amount of mid-20 somethings? do many people speak English (since i speak no japanese..but i AM learning)? what is the weather like? i have tattoos (two partial sleeves), is Seto a more conservative city in that perspective? |
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markle
Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Posts: 1316 Location: Out of Japan
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:30 am Post subject: |
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| suki_monster wrote: |
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which pretty much sums up Seto
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| i like reading and getting coffee, maybe walking/bicycling around exploring the area, etc. then at night, i like going out with friends to the same old bars we always go to. |
Should have no problems doing that
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| is there a decent amount of mid-20 somethings? |
really no idea
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| do many people speak English (since i speak no japanese..but i AM learning)? |
really hard to say, I doubt that it's much different from the norm in Japan
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| what is the weather like? |
Being closer to the mountains it's a bit colder than Nagoya in winter but not as hot in summer.
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| i have tattoos (two partial sleeves), is Seto a more conservative city in that perspective? |
I doubt it |
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sethness
Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Posts: 209 Location: Hiroshima, Japan
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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1) tattoos: All of Japan is going to freak a bit at the tattoos. Try to keep'em hidden, and don't be at all surprised if places like onsen (public bath houses / natural spring saunas) refuse you service.
This is because tattoos in Japan are usually a sign of yakuza (Japanese mafia) or foreign young-dumb-and-full--of-fight military types-- in short, the types of people you'd expect to have problems with.
This perception may be partially alleviated because you're a foreigner, and (maybe) you don't look military/mafia in other respects. ymmv
2) If you're in the 'burbs, you may find that the single/20s crowd and pubs are strictly in the City, while you're largely surrounded by families, kidlets, and grandparents. I'm guessing based on experience with OTHER suburbs of OTHER cities, not the one you'll be in, so I can't say for sure.
If you're within easy 30-minute commute to Nagoya City Center, then you'll have as much nightlife as you could care for. If you're in farmland more than an hour and a half from city center, you may find that there7s a distinct absence of 20-somethings, and neighborhood bars might not be the nightlife you7re looking for.
3) On the happy side, I've found that the deep country often has most-excellent community centers, called "kouminkan" (the big ones) and "shukaisho" (the small ones). Nagoya City has none of those, but perhaps the burb you'll be in does. If you're lucky enough to be near one or more, DEFINITELY check'em out, as they're chock-full of free or near-free hobby clubs, lesson groups, sports clubs, and so on-- everything from languages (including reading/writing/speaking Japanese) to arts and computers and music. |
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bearcat
Joined: 08 May 2004 Posts: 367
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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Sethness is again not giving very good advice....
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1) tattoos: All of Japan is going to freak a bit at the tattoos. Try to keep'em hidden, and don't be at all surprised if places like onsen (public bath houses / natural spring saunas) refuse you service.
This is because tattoos in Japan are usually a sign of yakuza (Japanese mafia) or foreign young-dumb-and-full--of-fight military types-- in short, the types of people you'd expect to have problems with.
This perception may be partially alleviated because you're a foreigner, and (maybe) you don't look military/mafia in other respects. ymmv |
Japanese don't "freak out" because they see a tattoo. To many they are unsightly but there are Japanese young people with tattoos. And they and the older generation know that those tattoos are not "yakuza" ones.
If the tattoos are visible, some schools might require you to cover them up. One teacher I remember at a school had to wear bandage gauze (those mesh ones) over his fore arm tattoo in the summer. However, he was one of the best teachers that school had ever known and when he left, so did many students because of how good he was.
How someone is treated with their tattoo is a case by case thing.
Never seen nor heard of anyone in the Nagoya area refusing someone who had a tattoo.
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| 2) If you're in the 'burbs, you may find that the single/20s crowd and pubs are strictly in the City, while you're largely surrounded by families, kidlets, and grandparents. I'm guessing based on experience with OTHER suburbs of OTHER cities, not the one you'll be in, so I can't say for sure. |
Yes you are guessing.
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| If you're within easy 30-minute commute to Nagoya City Center, then you'll have as much nightlife as you could care for. If you're in farmland more than an hour and a half from city center, you may find that there7s a distinct absence of 20-somethings, and neighborhood bars might not be the nightlife you7re looking for. |
Guessing again...
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| 3) On the happy side, I've found that the deep country often has most-excellent community centers, called "kouminkan" (the big ones) and "shukaisho" (the small ones). Nagoya City has none of those, but perhaps the burb you'll be in does. If you're lucky enough to be near one or more, DEFINITELY check'em out, as they're chock-full of free or near-free hobby clubs, lesson groups, sports clubs, and so on-- everything from languages (including reading/writing/speaking Japanese) to arts and computers and music. |
Wrong. Right smack in the middle of Sakae is a huge community center called Chunichi Bunka Center with various language and hobby courses, yoga and tons more. There is also near Nagoya station the kokusai (international) center for information for foreigners with a hallway filled with flyers on all sorts of activities in the Nagoya area for hobbyists. And all peppered around Nagoya city and other cities are smaller community centers.
Sethness, I don't know why you keep giving people flimsy advice man, but you really need think/check on things before you do. |
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User N. Ame
Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 222 Location: Kanto
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Japanese don't "freak out" because they see a tattoo. To many they are unsightly but there are Japanese young people with tattoos. And they and the older generation know that those tattoos are not "yakuza" ones. |
Yes, but sethness has a point. Like it or not, tatoos are commonly associated with yakuza in Japan.
As far as young Japanese people go, you're gonna see way fewer kids sporting tatoos in Japan than you will in the West. In my high schools, I saw not a single tatoos in 3 years. Same at the university I worked at.
The other unfortunate reality for OP to consider: if you have a tattoo, lots of public onsen (hot spring) forbid tattoos. And you'll see the big signs upon entry. Again, this is because of yakuza. And it's not just onsen. The odd capsule hotel will forbid tattoos as well. I know a few gaijin who were turned away from the Green Plaza Capsule in Shinjuku because of the no-tattoo policy.
OP, it's not as bad as it sounds. You're just going to have to be extra cognizant when you go to onsen, capsule hotels. And if you have any tattoos on your arms, be prepared to wear long-sleeve shirts in summer. |
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suki_monster
Joined: 06 Feb 2007 Posts: 15
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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thanks a lot for all of the responses, they were really helpful.
hahah, well, i don't think i will be mistaken or associated in any way with either the yakuza or the military. but perhaps i'm wrong on the perception of mixed-race foreign females. i have heard about the bathhouses situation, and as much as that's unfortunate, it's just something i guess i'll have to deal with. maybe i'll get lucky and find at least one lenient bathhouse. luckily, my tattoos do not go past my elbows, so i can keep them covered fairly well. in my jobs here, i always keep them covered without a hsassle.
my worry is the summer and when i am outside of work. obviously i don't want to wear a long sleeve, 3/4 sleeve shirt all the time, and from what i | | |