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[tinkerbell]

[Baba Alex]

I don't know who started the myth that Turkish teachers are better at grammar and natives are better at skills or whathaveyou, but it's a massive bag of rubbish.
I know some Turkish teachers who are useless grammar teachers, not useless at grammar, just useless at teaching it. What of the best speaking teachers I've ever met is Turkish, bot even bilingual, but will get even the shiest, most awkward student chirping like a budgie within minutes.

Those Turkish teachers that think they are better at Grammar than native speakers are usually obsesed with form rather than function.

[dmb]

*dmb puts on his sensible teacher training hat

I agree with what Baba says,however, I think in general Turkish teachers do have more knowledge about the use of English. Whereas native speakers of English have a lot more knowledge about the usage of English.


*dmb takes off hat and normal service will resume discussing the 2 new new records of Stevo and Carry last night*

[Baba Alex]

[dmb]

*massive fart*

so thats why the dog is running about going mad.

[billybuzz]

Yes ,Yes ,tinkerbell ,don't get them in a twist I was merely extracting the water .Of course grammmmmmmmar is the most important thing in language learning everybody knows that ,the kids are spoonfed it morning noon and night ,they are past masters of it know more about it than a lot of people who post here ,but the poor little ferkers have not yet mastered the skill of using the language ,ie speaking .

[Baba Alex]

[scb222]

back to the original poster's question: yes, the private schools (okullari) are nightmares to teach in. number one problem is the children. theyre terrors, total rugrats. theyre spoiled little brats who have no respect for their teachers, including the turkish teachers (but they are worse behaved with foreign teachers). Problem being that mummy pays alot of money so no-one has the power/nerve to discipline them. and it is impossible for them to fail, so you cant threaten them with low grades. they know this, so refuse to do homework, classwork, and they just a** around making your class a nightmare.

having said that, the private schools offer good perks like insurance, free airfares, 2 mths paid summer holidays, etc. this goes quite some way in compensating you for putting up with little ahmet and mohammad for 10 mths. arrgghhh....

[twilightsummers]

Hello everyone--

Just a quick question semi-related to this topic... I recently got an email from RFT in Turkey saying that I had been short-listed for several of their open positions. (You've probably heard of them; they are a recruitment agency for teachers.) These positions are mostly described as being at a "foundation school", although one school is specifically listed as "Sezin Koleji". My question is this: is "foundation school" just a different way of saying "private school"? Because after reading about the experiences discussed in this thread, I feel the urge to run away as fast as possible.

On the other hand, the salary ranges listed are the highest I've seen in searching for a job in Istanbul ($2000-$2500USD/month plus either accomodation or acc. allowance, insurance, and return airfare). This is almost comparable to what I made in South Korea, something I thought would be unrealistic for a newbie in Istanbul.

[thrifty]

Yes. Private universities like to call themselves foundation universities-likewise for private schools.

[dmb]

[scb222]

[twilightsummers]

[lovelace]

[Golightly]

all they can say is 'Mwaak! Prettypolly! Mwaak! Gissacracker! Mwaak!'