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gaijinalways



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 4:14 am    Post subject: Business movies with possible cultural differences Reply with quote

Anyone have any good idea for a business related movie?

I'm not sure yet what I would like to focus on, but it would be useful to have some cultural difference highlighted, if possible.

This is for a Business English class for intermediate-level university students.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A cultural difference from whom? From your students? It would help to know who they are.

A couple spring to mind, but be very careful in showing them. Here is the best of the bunch.

Gung Ho (an 80s period piece with Micheal Keaton), with Japanese and American cultures at odds.
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furiousmilksheikali



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski wrote:
Gung Ho


Oh my God! Possibly the worst film ever made! Shocked

But OP, your request is a little on the vague side. The only "business" movie that immediately springs to mind is "Wall Street".
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saint57



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Believe it or not, I showed Russell Peters in my class. It happened to fit the curriculum perfectly. Here is a negotiation between an Indian guy and a Chinese guy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoFhDZjW8Cw

My class is composed of mostly Chinese and Indian Malaysians and they loved it. It's a week later and I always hear them saying "Be a man" to each other.
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gaijinalways



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I am familar with both 'Gung Ho' and 'Wall Street', though I was looking for something more recent.

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But OP, your request is a little on the vague side.
but I said,

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I'm not sure yet what I would like to focus on,
and of course it's for a business English class.


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A cultural difference from whom? From your students? It would help to know who they are.


Mostly Japanese, with a spanish speaker, one Korean, and a few Chinese. They're mostly 3rd and 4th year students, with 1 or 2 2nd year students. majors vary; some are literature majors, some are studying law, some liberal arts.

That youtube link though funny is not quite what I'm looking for. I'm looking some business discussions in a more formal setting within a movie or TV show.
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misterkodak



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about Office Space? I showed it to a group of businessmen I had once and they quite enjoyed it. By the way.. didn't you get the memo?
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gaijinalways



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

'Office Space' looks interesting. I'll have to see about getting a copy.
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rusmeister



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"The Firm" with Tom Cruise, of course.
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John Hall



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"The Firm" is fine if your students need to learn about the workings of a law firm and off-shore tax shelters; not much there having to do with cultural differences though.

I'm getting a vague memory of a movie called, "Black Rain," starring Michael Douglas (?), and involving his character having to deal with Japanese corporate culture... I'm not sure if it is realistic though.

Another movie sometimes good to use for Business English is a movie called, "Disclosure," starring Demi Moore and Michael Douglas, I believe. It's about Silicon Valley. Again, not much about cultural differences there.

Hollywood loves the mafia and stories about business scams. In some of these types of movies, cultural points come up as well. Try to focus more on those films that are based on true stories, because they will tend to have more about business and less violence.
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Justin Trullinger



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For short clips, I like the British sitcom, "the Office."

It's not recent, but I also like "Glengary Glen Ross." For hard core sales culture, and the dissection of the American dream.

I have a colleague who uses "The pursuit of happiness," but I haven't seen it, so can't comment.


Best,
Justin
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John Hall



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, I should have googled "Black Rain" before writing about it. I just looked it up, and it is really about the yakuza, not about Japanese corporate culture. I must be confusing it then with another movie that I have seen which is about an American's encounter with corporate Japan. Anybody know what that movie is?
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John Hall



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Justin mentioned "Glengary Glen Ross," which reminds me of a movie which makes reference to that movie, "Boiler Room." Ben Affleck is in that. It's about selling junk bonds. Lots of sales lingo and very vulgar slang of young guys from New York.
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kirez



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Office Space -- Absolutely!!! +1

Also: The Hudsucker Proxy

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You can do worse than Gung Ho --- do you remember "Rising Sun", made from the Michael Crichton novel? Very anti-Japanese.

Also as bad as Gung Ho: Tin Men, with Danny DeVito.
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globalnomad2



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're thinking of Red Sun Rising, the movie based on Crichton's novel...about Japanese corporate culture clashing with local American values in LA. (On another but related tack, I know a Japanese girl who worked for Honda USA and was appalled that she had to put up with the same sexual harassment as back in Japan. Trust me, it's on a whole different plane compared to what we complain about in the West).
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kirez



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I shouldn't have joined in the dissing of Gung Ho, actually --- to be fair, it IS a very pointed treatment of cultural differences between US and Japan and I think your audience would enjoy and sympathize with it.

Thanks for the correction on Red Sun Rising!
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