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My students are driving me NUTS!!!
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feisty-red



Joined: 28 Nov 2006
Posts: 29

PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, quick recap:

Thanks for the helpful hints so far. To anyone reading this and wishing to comment, please consider:

-I am the only teacher at this school. Just how do you propose I get someone to observe me and on a Sunday of all things?
-This was the first day of class.
-The students are all students I have never met or have met once before.
-The text was written for Europeans wishing to learn English.
-The text is simple for the level, even headquarters admits to this.
-The level of students is either below level or ...and I really think this, they just don't want to speak in front of each other. In groups, they won't shut up.

And lastly, of course the title shows frustration! Aside from yesterday's class I had a rough day. You name it, it went wrong before I even got to work. That class was the icing on the cake. Sad

And super bonus, Canuck isn't the only pregnant bitch I encountered as I work with one too.

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So, my aim is to get them talking in front of each other and to participate in conversations. That's what I want help with. Even if you feed it to them they still do the deer in headlights look. I know better.
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feisty-red



Joined: 28 Nov 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would also like to add that of all the schools I have worked at here (and there have been several, I was subbing and I have two other schools now), this is the only school where I have complaints.

And I think this due in large part to the pregnant *beep* I work with. For whatever reason, she mutters some crap to them in Japanese before I even say hi to students, and everyone looks at me with a stony face. Sad What on earth is she saying? And furthermore, I've had to give demo lessons and guess who had to prepare the materials? The pregnant *beep*. I was given material clearly marked for a level 2 or 3 levels above that stated for the prospective student. Does she not care about sales? I guess not because in a few short weeks she will be a homemaker and not a school director. When I asked about the material she suddenly lost her English ability and gave me the deer in headlights look.

And of course the complaints are told to me by the pregnant *beep*. Funny. You think if I had so many complaints I would hear from headquarters.

I can't wait until she leaves. Confused
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shuize



Joined: 04 Sep 2004
Posts: 1270

PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 2:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with the advice offered in the posts above. Here's mine: Calm down. One solo class and you feel the need to run to the internet to vent? Relax. Otherwise you're going to be in for a very long haul.
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Angelfish



Joined: 18 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seriously, calm down. If this is your first class, they're probably very, very nervous. You're new. They don't know you yet. They probably aren't familiar with your accent and intonation. They have no idea how you'll respond to their questions. Basically, they're probably scared of you right now. Give them a couple of weeks and they'll warm up to you. They'll open up and then start asking you questions about stuff they don't understand. You can't expect perfect class cohesion in one lesson. I don't know the situation, but have they even met each other before this class? Why don't you try doing an introduction warm-up? Get everyone to stand up and say a short piece about themselves - name, job, hobbies, etc. Then encourage them to ask each other and you questions about yourselves. Break the ice a bit.
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gaijin4life



Joined: 23 Sep 2006
Posts: 150
Location: Westside of the Eastside, Japan

PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree w Angelfish re doing a warm-up at start of class. A short quiz, guess this word; or game can help to get students more engaged and relaxed.

As others have said, try to relax.. I know its probably difficult and you may be feeling pressured but being new, you can only do your best. Give yourself time to get sorted out and try different things until you hit on things that work Smile

As for not knowing what colleagues are saying and working with difficult people, I found it worked for me to ignore everything that wasnt said to me directly. That way I didnt have to worry about what others said etc. I thought that if it was important for me to know, someone would tell me. Some people like to b*@*h and moan, thats their choice ..
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 3:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is beginning to sound suspiciously like a recent poster (and a couple of much older posts) where the director was a very caustic bossy Japanese woman (whose name I forget), and who was just out to get the cheapest gaijin to teach, sometimes even for one-off lessons.

How can you have been here 2 months, and have only just taught this class once?

Who are you working for?

Are you looking for other work to replace this (because you should)?
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furiousmilksheikali



Joined: 31 Jul 2006
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Location: In a coffee shop, splitting a 30,000 yen tab with Sekiguchi.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 3:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Feisty-red,

You are asking for advice and we have given it as best we can. I did ask you if you could tell us the textbook you are using, some vocab you are having trouble teaching or at least the target of the lesson you are teaching.

It makes no sense to ask for advice and then tell the people you are asking that "Even if you feed it to them they still do the deer in headlights look. I know better."

I think you have confused a lot of different problems and made them sound like they are all the same thing.

1.) You're having problems with the woman you work with.
2.) You had a bad day before you taught the class.
3.) Your students are driving you NUTS!

It sounds to me as if you weren't in the right frame of mind to teach the class and as a result your lesson suffered. If you had only one student that was causing problems then you should focus your question on that student but seeing as you feel the whole class is a problem then my guess is that it is something you are doing that isn't right.

I can only guess, but it could be one or some of the following:

a.) Your instructions aren't clear and the students don't know how to respond to your questions.
b.) You are showing your frustration too easily and becoming impatient with them, leading to nervousness on their part.
c.) The vocab is not being presented in a way that is easy for them to understand.
d.) You may be confusing them by writing things on the board when you talk and not being clear about what the students should focus on.
e.) You're speaking too quickly or you have a thick accent that the students aren't used to.

Or it may be somthing else entirely. Just ask yourself this question: Is it really the fault of all of your students or is there something you aren't doing right?
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J.



Joined: 03 May 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 12:39 am    Post subject: Who are your students? Reply with quote

I can't understand by your description who the students are that you are having trouble with. Are they adults in a culture class or adults in a private converstion school or high school students in a private or public school or someone else? It matters a good deal who your students are and their reasons for being there.

If they are high school students, and the silence sounds like they might be, then you need to discover why they aren't speaking. In my case I have found that the self-consciousness of speaking English before the whole group is a factor and needs to be diffused before you can have success. Actually, that could be a factor with adults, too. I feel you need to "warm up" the atmosphere and make it as friendly as possible and let people get to know a bit about each other and you before you get concentrated on the text. You could do this with communication games, other games, simplifying the conversation (from the text or your head) to one question and answer (which you rehearse first and write on the board along with the pattern for an answer) and then letting students stand up and ask every other person the same question in turn. (This works better with adults than high school students who might be better in pairs.) You need a question that comes from your students life experience, even something like "What did you do last week?" should work. Of course if you think they may have trouble answering then you could first do a brainstorm on the board, which is just writing the question inside a circle and then asking students for their answers which you put into good English phrases or sentences and leave on the board as cues for when you get to the "walk around and speak" or pair practice part of the lesson. As a follow up you could ask the question again the next week and see who remembers what. You can do this by going round the class and asking some/all students yourself. It will reinforce the learning.

You need to adapt your lessons to the character of the individual classes. Each class has a character; some are chatty, some are stony. As a teacher, your job is a little like a detective. Try to find out more about your students and adapt your teaching to them. Find out what activities/ interests/ things they like in life and build your lessons on that whenever you can. And remember-- low key and fun is better.

And by the way, almost all classes are a little uncomfortable at first. Pass that warm-up phase and if you truly try to teach them as people that you like and respect, there should be little problem.

ps Students here are not apt to "take responsibility for their own education" as we expect in North America. I think they want /are accustomed to more leading from the teacher here. That means you may have to be a bit of a "mind reader".
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