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adorabilly · Joined: 20 May 2006 Posts: 430 Location: Ras Al Khaimah

hakbs

notice when we found out information about a miscommunication between the HR and recruiter in the ECAE, i came on and posted that there was a miscommunication and that things are more in line with what my wife was offered at Seattle TESOL.

My original question was not to say they were not professional, but to inquire about the cultural differences and if employers in the gulf would try to lowball prospective employees, or if you had to negotiate with HR to get what the recruiter promises.

The ECAE seems like a promising school, but only time will tell.

hakbs · Joined: 15 Apr 2007 Posts: 33 Location: Taipei vicinity

Sheikh Inal Ovar · Joined: 04 Dec 2005 Posts: 1208 Location: Melo Drama School

Which part of Taipei are you in exactly ... the Abu Dhabi part?

hakbs · Joined: 15 Apr 2007 Posts: 33 Location: Taipei vicinity

Taichung and is about 1 hour from Al-Ain. Did I answer your question?

Sheikh Inal Ovar · Joined: 04 Dec 2005 Posts: 1208 Location: Melo Drama School

I know the one ... a one horse town ...

turtlepi1 · Joined: 15 Jun 2004 Posts: 94

hakbs · Joined: 15 Apr 2007 Posts: 33 Location: Taipei vicinity

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Wow, what a disaster! No, that certainly is not normal practice, it's FAR WORSE than normal. At worst, it's unethical, despicable and outrageous. At best, it indicates that ECAE has all the makings of one big, f**ked up mess, which is great news for Dave's regulars because it promises and endless stream of entertaining posts describing battles between disgruntled, rebellious staff and incompetent, dishonest management. Things have been pretty quiet since the civil war at Abu Dhabi University. The looming ECAE debacle may be just what we need. Fasten your seatbelts. It's going to be a bumpy contract.[/quote]

This is a pure indication that these people posting bad things about ECAE are unprofessional and ignorant and could be the fact that they were rejected, they are trying to revenge. Anyhow, they do not fit EACE profile and this institution needs mature, professional and enthusiastic teachers rather than pessimistic and negative. Thanks God, they are not on the good list!

How can you judge a new place which has no records yet? How can someone draw conclusions without any solid evidence? How can someone blast ECAE without any first-hand experience? How can you pull the trigger without identifying a potential target??????

Come on EDUCATORS! There is nothing wrong with ECAE, the place is just taking off the ground and qualified managers are in place to take care of the business. Oh by the way, more are coming!

RELAX!

veiledsentiments · Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA

Call me suspicious, but I find your glowing posts on an unknown place to be just as... odd... as those damning the place. Are you on their payroll?

Some of us have been around long enough to have seen early hype like this turn into disasters. The reality is that anyone taking a job with a new employer with no previous Middle East experience is taking a risk even if they have managed to poach a few ex-HCT/ZU managers.

Right now the best advice for those getting offers is to just realize that there is risk and none of us know how much.

VS

hakbs · Joined: 15 Apr 2007 Posts: 33 Location: Taipei vicinity

Manny2 · Joined: 16 Mar 2006 Posts: 143

Well if Turtlepi is correct then that is a good enough reason to stay away....imported incompetent managers from HCT ...that is all a new institution needs.

Sheikh Inal Ovar · Joined: 04 Dec 2005 Posts: 1208 Location: Melo Drama School

hakbs · Joined: 15 Apr 2007 Posts: 33 Location: Taipei vicinity

Sheikh Inal Ovar,

Really enjoyed reading your post! Keep writing.

Already the managers at ECAE are competent & professional, now as long as negative teachers aren't hired at ECAE, success will be there and I am very optimistic about it regardless what others say!

adorabilly · Joined: 20 May 2006 Posts: 430 Location: Ras Al Khaimah

Need to update on other thing

As for the paid vacation days.
According to the formal offer they sent my wife it is 40 working days vacation. It doesn't say what the break down for those vacation days are (ie only over the summer??)

I'm not sure if 40 working days vacation is really good, or really bad.

Our last school had a 7 week winter break (with 5 weeks paid), and then then 3 month summer vacation (unpaid), so I"m looking and seeing 40 working days, that is 8 weeks.. so 2 months paid vacation is nice... just wondering how that breaks down.. can we do 6 weeks in the summer and 2 in the winter? Who knows...

But I'll keep you all updated as this goes on...

Still waiting to hear about the $4,000 salary discrepancy, but I'll let you all know when we do.

The education allowance is 20,000 durhams per child per year... I'm not sure how far that would go in abu dhabi,

veiledsentiments · Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA

Hopefully someone with kids can tell you how far the education allowance will go.

As to vacation, the usual in the Gulf is to have two months paid in the summer. Most places will also have a paid semester break which tends to be 2 weeks, but there are places that have longer. Then there are the two major Eid breaks which can last from 4 - 10 days depending on the day it starts and how generous the government is feeling. But since this institution is private sector, it will likely be towards the low end, while the government places like HCT and ZU will get the long break. Then there are a few scattered days here and there.

Only they can tell you how that 40 days breaks down - whether that includes the semester break or not.

VS

hakbs · Joined: 15 Apr 2007 Posts: 33 Location: Taipei vicinity