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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 8:00 pm    Post subject: For those of you who are married Reply with quote

My husband and I are thinking of leaving Peru to go to Central or Eastern Europe, or possibly the Middle East. I'm American, but my husband's Peruvian.

For those of you who are married, was it difficult for your spouse to get a visa that allowed him/her to live where you're living?

Also, what do they do? My husband doesn't speak much English, so he couldn't teach it. Have they been able to find jobs easily?
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Afra



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Women doing certain jobs can sponsor their husbands, teachers and doctors are amongst them. Whether this applies to teachers in the private sector, I don't know but if your were applying to the HCT or the government universities, you'd be OK. Husbands can work under their wives sponsorship but I'm not sure how easy it would be for someone who doesn't speak much English to find something to do. I wouldn't want to live in Dubai and not work; it's expensive, distances are great and there isn't the variety of cheap/free cultural activities that there are in Europe.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Naturegirl:
Though there certainly are communities of Spanish-speakers w/in the UAE, it's a small number. Going there with little English and no Arabic would make it quite difficult for him to find work. One option would be to try and find employment w/ a company w/ roots in a Spanish-speaking country that has operations in the UAE. Otherwise, if he didn't have a job going in, I would venture to say that it will be very difficult for him to find work.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teachers can I believe sponsor husbands.

Without much English and presumably without Arabic it would be difficult for a person to work here. Depends of course on skills and qualifications (can he teach Spanish?) I have come across a few husbands of teachers here who are not working formally - they go to the gym a lot, join other sports clubs, or set up as odd-job or handymen if they have the skills (can be more reliable than the untrained local electricians/plumbers/carpenters), or do errands for money such as trips to consulates to pick up/deliver passports. Some write, or do tele-working with the home country.

Non-working wives tend to adapt more easily, as there's expatwoman.com or various international or national ladies' groups, or if they have children then there's the school based or mother and toddler group social network.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.spanishbusinesscouncil.ae/
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems like UAE would be difficult for us, any ideas on where we could go?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Naturegirl... I think that you are going to run into this problem no matter where you go. It would seem that for him to find decent employment, you will need a country that speaks Spanish or has a large number of Spanish-speaking companies... and I don't know where that would be. Of course, his English may be better than we are interpreting your post. There is a big stretch between being able to teach English and being employed at a job where you need at least passable English.

The Gulf offers you a chance to make a great deal more money than where you are now, but could he accept being a househusband for a couple years if he has no marketable skills. (you haven't told us his education or experience) If he could work over the internet or write the 'great Peruvian novel' it would be fine. Cool

You mentioned working in Europe... do either or both of you have an EU passport? There is another problem for both of you as related to working in Europe.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

veiledsentiments wrote:
It would seem that for him to find decent employment, you will need a country that speaks Spanish or has a large number of Spanish-speaking companies... and I don't know where that would be. There is a big stretch between being able to teach English and being employed at a job where you need at least passable English.

You mentioned working in Europe... do either or both of you have an EU passport? There is another problem for both of you as related to working in Europe.


His English regarding his career is decent, he can get by reading when it's related to computers, however speaking and writing are difficult as is listening. He took an English test a bit ago and was placed in Pre.Intermediate, which means that he has the equivilant of someone who's studied English at university for about 4 months.

Passport from an EU country? That's in the works for me, depending on whether Romania admits that my mother is a citizen. (See my posts on the Romanian forum).
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK... so if you can get the EU passport, does that help him to get employment since he is married to you?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope so. But it will take a while to get it. And I think it might only help us go to Romania, but I could be wrong. At least for me, it would open some of the EU countries up for work and I assume I might be able to help him get a visa.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But perhaps while waiting for this passport to materialize, the Middle East would be a place to save up a stake to start you out in Romania. I admittedly know nothing of the country or jobs, but I suspect that the pay is still very low there.

Food for thought for you...

VS
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 3:45 pm    Post subject: Romania??? Think twice! Reply with quote

Hey,

Romania, in my opinion, is not a good destination for both of you, but the Middle East seems more promising financially. Once in the Gulf, you will be able to visit Europe at least once a year if you land a decent salary.

Once here, he could take/change his driver's license and do something! He is a Latino, I wouldn't worry too much about him.

All in all, land a good job and things will go along slowly!
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does he have at least a bachelor's, nature girl? If so, perhaps VS's suggestion is a good one: he could study English at the British Council(or a number of other places). There are various Masters programme's being administered in Dubai: business, education-related, etc. Good opportunity, educationally-speaking, and would hopefully lead to more job opportunities in Dubai.
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NO, not yet. Don't konw if he ever will.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's kinda bleak, naturegirl. The Gulf, in general, doesn't offer much in the way of unskilled jobs to westerners. Unskilled labour is typically done by Indians, Pakistanis, Bangleshis, and now Chinese. The pay is absolutely horrible (that's an understatement) and the treatment even worse. Indians are, in fact, the largest expatriate population, occupying many professions around the UAE. Along w/ the Philipinos, they are in many service positions around the country. What makes those two nationalities attractive is their low cost and the fact that they speak English.
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