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[danfournier]

Hi guys,

I am wondering if there is any collection somewhere that lists ranking of schools (all the way from middle-school to University level) according to **student** satisfaction/preference/liking (if this isn't a "taboo" subject in their country/culture).

I ask this because I feel it is important to get a perspective of the student population when "shopping" around for jobs in different schools. Do they like the teachers, administration, facilities, curriculum, etc.? Do they find it fun and enjoy learning? Is the school's physical environment appealing. etc.

We hear about the teachers, administrators, and recruiters opinions all the time but I feel that it is quite important and essential to get the opinions and views of those who are most dear and important to us, the Students!!

I am particularly interested in the Guangdong/Guangzhou/Shenzhen area but any input or feedback would be most appreciated.

Thanks!

[tw]

Best universitties in China: Tsinghua University and Beijing University (Beida).

[Steppenwolf]

If you ask such a question you are bound to get highly misleading answers.
CHina's schools are ranked but the ranks are attributed arbitrarily (pass grades seem to matter the most).

Secondly, what students say is one thing but whether that is objective is another. Their parents push them to attend elite schools - which get their status through official ranking in an opaque evaluation exercise.

For expat kids, the criteria might be a little different as parents want to see results, not just pass grades; expats used to rank Chinese universities and colleges for their own reference. Such a list was available at www.dezshira.com (a few years ago). ANd yes, Tsinghua and Peking universities rank top!

[latefordinner]

Yes, Tsinghua and BeiDa are top unis in China. They would be pretty reputable schools in most countries I can think of. Unfortunately not all Chinese students enjoy the privilege of studying at such elite schools.
Agreed Stepp, answers are bound to be a bit misleading, but then I have to wonder first about the question, "How do you rank your school?" (just a tiny bit, not a lot), and then (quite a bit actually) about the possible ways that answers to the Q might be compiled and evaluated. But mostly about the fact that (it would seem, correct me if I'm wrong) no one has bothered to ask Chinese students to rank their colleges and unis before. Their professors and teachers and course content yes, but the schools themselves, AFAIK, no.
It's as if no one cares how the students feel or what they think. (permitted or not, some of them do think from time to time, and it is one of the great pleasures of my job that I'm sometimes there when they do) They are only the raw material, part of the input, a small part of a long process that eventually churns out graduates of a certain if dismal quality after 4 years time. Who asks the cow or the pig what it thinks of the abattoir? Indeed, fans of Upton Sinclair might find an uncomfortably close analogy here.
I can see a lot of problems with a lot of potential answers, but my biggest problems are with questions that don't get asked.

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