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Job possibilities for a National Guardsman-not teach English
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bellatrix13



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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 6:38 pm    Post subject: Job possibilities for a National Guardsman-not teach English Reply with quote

I know this is a pretty random question and maybe you guys can't help me with it, but I thought I'd give it a try on this board in case anyone has any ideas.

I'm planning to move to Japan to teach English in the next 6 months or so, and it would be great if my boyfriend could come and work as well. He's a US citizen but is from El Salvador, so he's not a native English speaker. He doesn't possess a bachelor's degree, which pretty much rules out the possibility of him teaching English full time. He speaks English almost perfectly though, so maybe he could tutor part time? He's a reservist in the National Guard, so I'm wondering if he may be able to get a job on an Army base there. He currently works in construction in the US and makes good money doing so; would this be a possibility for him as well?

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated!
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canuck



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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 6:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Job possibilities for a National Guardsman-not teach Eng Reply with quote

bellatrix13 wrote:
I know this is a pretty random question and maybe you guys can't help me with it, but I thought I'd give it a try on this board in case anyone has any ideas.

I'm planning to move to Japan to teach English in the next 6 months or so, and it would be great if my boyfriend could come and work as well. He's a US citizen but is from El Salvador, so he's not a native English speaker. He doesn't possess a bachelor's degree, which pretty much rules out the possibility of him teaching English full time. He speaks English almost perfectly though, so maybe he could tutor part time? He's a reservist in the National Guard, so I'm wondering if he may be able to get a job on an Army base there. He currently works in construction in the US and makes good money doing so; would this be a possibility for him as well?

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated!


He needs a visa to work in Japan. Chances of getting a job here in Japan, based on what you've posted are very, very slim. Doesn't sound like a good idea at all for him.

Ideas? Get married and he can get a dependent type of visa, where you are responsible for him. He could marry a Japanese woman instead, and get a visa that way. He could become a Japanese student. He could work illegally.

It would be a huge risk for him to leave his good job now and try for something comparable in Japan, based on the information you have given.


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furiousmilksheikali



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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Canuck is right on this.

If you were married then you would have much better chances of getting employment on a dependent's visa.
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bellatrix13



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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, let's assume then that he and I will get married before we go, and I'll be able to arrange a spousal visa for him. This visa will allow him to stay in Japan but not work, is that right?

If he's allowed to work with the spousal visa, or if he's willing to work illegally, what options do you guys think are most promising? We are both totally flexible as to where we'll be in Japan, but we want to make sure we can both earn.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please reread these posts.

Married to you means he gets a DEPENDENT VISA.
Married to a Japanese means he gets a SPOUSE VISA.

Different animals.

He cannot work on a dependent visa alone; he must file for the (easily gotten) permission to work, which will allow him part-time work. Earning over 1.1 million yen/year will be bad for you, because then you can't claim him as a tax exemption.

What sort of work he'll be eligible for is up to the employer to decide. No Japanese language ability makes it very tough. Can he tutor Spanish? Look into NOVA or Berlitz for that. Otherwise, that language barrier is formidable because how can he take orders on the job without understanding them?
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markle



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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dependant visa is going to be your best way. After that he can ask to work part time and then perhaps be able to get sponsorship for a full visa.

As for jobs, well I have seen South Americans working in the construction industry but mostly in the low skilled end of the spectrum. How easy it is to get work there and what the pay is like, I have no idea but it's a start.

Finally I think you really have to ask yourself if it is worth coming to Japan.
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Gypsy Rose Kim



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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, everyone else is overlooking something. If your boyfriend works on base he does NOT need a Japanese visa. I personally know people who are DoD civilians or reservists who work on bases all over the world and don't have work rights in those countries. (Actually, I have, too, twice, but not in Japan). These are two completely separate things.

I'm not sure how the hiring process works nowadays. You need to contact an MWR office if that's the kind of job he's looking at, or else look into GS jobs (which would pay better but be harder to get). I'm sure that he has some kind of benefits officer or whatnot. Have him chase up contacts through his chain of command.

Remember, most of these jobs go to retired military or family members of those stationed there. They're hard to get, and people stay in the good ones until they retire. Remember also, if he gets one, you'll be able to do stuff like buy gas and plane tickets and stuff on base. Would save you a lot!

I'd definitely look into it if I were you. There is a point system when they choose applicants, and I'd assume being a Guardsman would guarantee a certain number of points.
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markle



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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GRK

So you mean the OP comes and teaches English and gets a visa through her job and her boyfriend gets a job on a military base, which he won't need a visa for.
I'm not doubting it I just didn't know that that was an option.
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Gypsy Rose Kim



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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, that's what I'm saying. If I were the boyfriend, I'd get on it immediately, though.
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jademonkey



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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some few English schools don't require native speakers, and your husband may be allowed, but to be blunt, he wouldn't get far without even a degree.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are there national guardsmen in Japan? I thought the military bases here were full of other types of US military (marines, air force, etc.). Besides, being asked to transfer to Japan is probably only going to be a short-term assignment, isn't it? And, there aren't that many bases around, so what are the odds that the girlfriend would get placed in a job near such a base that would allow them to see each other often? What happens in a year when her contract is not renewed, or in less than a year when he gets sent home?
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AndyH



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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He would probably need to finish his National Guard obligation before going to Japan. I doubt that he's be able to get a job as a civilian employee on one of the bases if he isn't a US citizen, but if he served any active duty time, he might be able to get some veteran's preference points for a job. It might be tough, though.
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Gypsy Rose Kim



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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

She said he's already a US citizen.

It's one thing to caution people when you know what you're talking about, but not everyone in this thread does.

There is a lot of speculation here, but like I said, I've worked on military bases as a civilian. It is entirely possible. It is not about him working as a "Guardsman" on a base in Japan. He'll fly home to serve his two weeks a year or whatever. The reason his status as a member of the National Guard is relevant is because it will give him better standing among a long list of potential applicants for on-base or on-post jobs.

Let's not pretend she won't be able to get a job teaching English in the area she wants. There's no guarantee, but she's got a great shot.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 3:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure what sort of work he can land on the base, though, Gypsy. Do you have any idea? Carpentry on a US military base would seem iffy to me, and I would expect the military to hire out its contractors from abroad, not from within Japan. Not sure about SOFA status.

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Let's not pretend she won't be able to get a job teaching English in the area she wants. There's no guarantee, but she's got a great shot.
I'm not pretending at all. "Great" is not the odds I'd give. The Big Four eikaiwa don't make any promises about where you'll be placed. They only say they'll listen to your request. In the long run, you go where they have the vacancies.
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Gypsy Rose Kim



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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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