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canuck
Joined: 11 May 2003
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Location: Japan
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| naturegirl321 wrote: |
| But, wouldn't learning the language of the country open move doors than ENglish? |
Yes, to a point. However, just Japanese ability isn't enough. You need Japanese ability and a skill to do a job, because you are now competing with jobs Japanese people could do. English teachers have their jobs in Japan because they are jobs the Japanese can't do (well) in most cases.
Language ability and a skill are very important. And so are credentials. This is something that your partner does not have. In addition, with the information about starting a family in the future etc. Japan would not be an ideal place for the both of you in my opinion. |
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naturegirl321
Joined: 04 May 2003
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Location: home sweet home
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| Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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| I agree. Not Japan- |
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Deicide
Joined: 29 Jul 2006
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Location: Caput Imperii Americani
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| Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 8:44 am Post subject: |
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| canuck wrote: |
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| In Osaka there is a real demand for Spanish teachers. |
No there isn't. |
You tell 'em Canuck... 
My experience in Korea has been similar; no one wants to learn any language but English...my German and French are effectively useless here and (getting rusty)... |
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Deicide
Joined: 29 Jul 2006
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Location: Caput Imperii Americani
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| MELEE wrote: |
There are a few opportuntities to teach Spanish in Japan, I haven't been there since 1996-7, but then there was no where near a real demand, but there were opportunities. I taught a Spanish class to a group of ladies who were planning a holiday in Spain together. And at that time ECC had one location where they taught other languages, including Spanish, but the teachers were either Japanese, or qualified English-other language bilinguals. There were native Spanish speakers in Japan, mostly from Peru, but some others, but they were mostly cleaning office buildings or working in factories and construction. And the hard honest truth is that without a degree that's the kind of work Naturegirl's husband is looking at. I met latinos in Japan by going to Salsa festivals and Mexican or Peruvian restuarants where they were waiting tables or just hanging out unwinding after a hard day's work. When I told them I was a teacher, many expressed interest in teaching their language, but without degrees doors were closed to them.
I'm married, but we live in my husband's home country. We would entertain the thought of moving, for the cultural advantages, not monetary, contrary to popular belief you can do well finacially in Mexico. The difference is if we ever decided to move, my husband has an MA in mathematics and CAE level English ablities. If you two really want to relocate, your husband better start studying now, there is no easy way out. |
Yes there is..divorce...damn, that ain't easy either... |
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naturegirl321
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Divorce isn't an option.
Somehow people who want to adapt to a different culture and language will.
ABout money...I knew a man from NZ who up and moved to China with his wife and four kids, all under the age of six. He's still there seven years later. His kids speak fluent Chinese and go to school there. He earns about 1000 USD a month and manages to get by while his wife teaches a few private classes. Luckily his boss paid for all of them to go back to NZ to visit their family for a month.
It can be done. |
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Deicide
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Location: Caput Imperii Americani
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| Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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| naturegirl321 wrote: |
Divorce isn't an option.
Somehow people who want to adapt to a different culture and language will.
ABout money...I knew a man from NZ who up and moved to China with his wife and four kids, all under the age of six. He's still there seven years later. His kids speak fluent Chinese and go to school there. He earns about 1000 USD a month and manages to get by while his wife teaches a few private classes. Luckily his boss paid for all of them to go back to NZ to visit their family for a month.
It can be done. |
Yes, getting by=ghetto living, been there, done that...we only have one life to live...why spend it eeking a wretched 1000 USD...to cover an entire family...somehow indeed...  |
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naturegirl321
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| Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Deicide wrote: |
| Yes, getting by=ghetto living, been there, done that...we only have one life to live...why spend it eeking a wretched 1000 USD...to cover an entire family...somehow indeed... |
Sorry I don't agree. Having had a job that doesn't pay so well, but a good work environment vs a job that pays really well and a horrible work envornment, I'd take the former.
If we plan well, I think we can do it. Yes, maybe the job won't pay well, However, there are ways to supplement a salary, ex running a pension, which is something we have in mind. |
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Deicide
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| Deicide wrote: |
| Yes, getting by=ghetto living, been there, done that...we only have one life to live...why spend it eeking a wretched 1000 USD...to cover an entire family...somehow indeed... |
Sorry I don't agree. Having had a job that doesn't pay so well, but a good work environment vs a job that pays really well and a horrible work envornment, I'd take the former.
If we plan well, I think we can do it. Yes, maybe the job won't pay well, However, there are ways to supplement a salary, ex running a pension, which is something we have in mind. |
How about a good work environment and good pay...they aren't necessarily exclusive... |
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naturegirl321
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Right. That would be ideal  |
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comenius
Joined: 27 Jan 2003
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Location: San Francisco, California, USA
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Agree, that's definitely the goal!
Good work and good pay sure beats the alternatives!  |
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Deicide
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Agree, that's definitely the goal!
Good work and good pay sure beats the alternatives! |
Add to that without the shackles of domestic slavery..err...marriage...then everything is gold... |
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rusmeister
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 8:39 am Post subject: |
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| comenius wrote: |
Agree, that's definitely the goal!
Good work and good pay sure beats the alternatives! |
Add to that without the shackles of domestic slavery..err...marriage...then everything is gold... |
I pity that view of marriage. It is a sad and hopeless one.
It's also a mistake to take philosophy as a development of religion - they are parallel - one is not an improvement on the other. |
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furiousmilksheikali
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Location: In a coffee shop, splitting a 30,000 yen tab with Sekiguchi.
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It's also a mistake to take philosophy as a development of religion - they are parallel - one is not an improvement on the other. |
One - religion - is not an improvement on the other - philosophy.
As for marriage; it can be very good or very bad. In some cases it certainly is domestic slavery; that is beyond dispute. |
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Deicide
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| rusmeister wrote: |
| Deicide wrote: |
| comenius wrote: |
Agree, that's definitely the goal!
Good work and good pay sure beats the alternatives! |
Add to that without the shackles of domestic slavery..err...marriage...then everything is gold... |
I pity that view of marriage. It is a sad and hopeless one.
It's also a mistake to take philosophy as a development of religion - they are parallel - one is not an improvement on the other. |
Nothing against long term relationships, but why bother marrying? When in the fullness of time the relationship ends, one need not bother with all the legalities...saves time and headaches.
Philosophy is most certainly not a development of religion and I have never implied that. Philosophy requires deep thought, contemplation and genuine understanding of the human condition and the universe we inhabit; religion requires believing absurd, untenable and poorly contrived propostions, often in contradiction to each other and almost always at variance with man's reason. Comparing the two is an insult to philosophy as a genuine field of enquiry and to those who practise it... |
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omanized
Joined: 04 Jun 2006
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Philosophy is nothing special - naval gazing, tail-chasing, mental mast..bation most of the time usually overvalued by those with nothing left to hold on to. Even the almighty power of reason ends up with nothing definitive when you go all the way - mostly clever semantic exercises with 'truth' derived from some level of faith in a precept which can't be ultimately proven - just another 'religion' if you really apply your 'deep thought and genuine understanding of the human condition' to it.
What is that true understanding of the human condition anyway? Man, you could make a buck or two selling that answer !
Anyway, there is no truth, only perception, assumption, stubborness, articulation, doubt, faith, cold beer, fine wine, sweet herb, good food, health, love, family happiness, sadness, revelation and death. Not necessarily in any order....
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