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Two Year Limit on Z-Viza???

 
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winterlynx1



Joined: 17 Nov 2005
Posts: 44
Location: Xi'an, Shaanxi, China
PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 11:02 pm    Post subject: Two Year Limit on Z-Viza??? Reply with quote
I've just been informed that a particular school can re-new a teacher's z-visa only one time, limiting the stay at a particular school to 2 years. Has anyone else run into this new regulation?

I'm in Shaanxi province.
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kev7161



Joined: 06 Feb 2004
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Location: Suzhou, China
PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 12:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Most schools won't renew a Z-VISA anyway. They will convert the Z visa to a Residence permit that acts like a visa and that is generally good for one year and/or the length of your contract (say, 10 months). I'm getting ready soon to have my RP renewed for a 3rd year at my school.
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ymmv



Joined: 14 Jul 2004
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
My very talkative, young FAO told me just before the break that at the most recent meeting of local FAOs, they had been told that they were "very strongly discouraged" from having the same foreign teacher for more than 2 years.

When I asked if they were given a reason why, she said that they were told, "No why. This is a new national regulation that has just come down from Beijing."

This sounds like what the OP was recently told.

I'm only in the third month of my third yearly contract at this college, so she was giving me a heads up for next year.
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dave_merk



Joined: 22 Mar 2006
Posts: 208
PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Why in the world would they do that? Schools in this country have enough of a problem with high turnover rates when it comes to FTs as it is. In the four years I've been here my schools has had (besides me) somewhere around 8 or 9 other FTs who have all left for one reason or another (didn't get a raise, hated the job, were discovered to not be native English speakers, etc etc). Most schools can barely keep a teacher on their roster for more than a year, anyway. It also behooves the school and the students to have the same teacher for a longer period of time.

I don't believe that this regulation, if it's even true, will catch on. Veterans of this board should know by now that "new regulations" are just a code word for "hearsay."

I'm not going to sweat it.
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bendan



Joined: 18 Jun 2004
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Location: North China
PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
It doesn't really fit very well with the other advice supposedly being passed down from Beijing that FTs must have teaching experience.
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Steppenwolf



Joined: 30 Jul 2006
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
ymmv wrote:
My very talkative, young FAO told me just before the break that at the most recent meeting of local FAOs, they had been told that they were "very strongly discouraged" from having the same foreign teacher for more than 2 years.


Actually this is not a new policy or rule - it's been practised for decades. Some P.S>B. offices may have invented a rule whereby FTs can only live in the same locale for 2 years...

But FTs have for ages been regarded as unreliable; besides your employer would not want to keep someone who knows the modus operandi of their school so well he could actually give them some advice... Also, you hit the ceiling of the career eventually, don't you? Their salaries can't go higher for employees that retain the same post!

Having said this, I have had my present job for four years...luckily I don't need a work visa. The cops renew my resident's permit every time.
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kev7161



Joined: 06 Feb 2004
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Location: Suzhou, China
PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Also, you hit the ceiling of the career eventually, don't you? Their salaries can't go higher for employees that retain the same post


Not necessarily - - I get a 5% raise every year and I received a 10% increase from my first to my second year. In 4 years time, if all goes well, I should go from xxxxx (gross) to xxxxx (net). [PM me if you REALLY want to know! hee-hee!]

If I take an offered vice-director position after year 4, then I get a bit more than 5% (of my then 4th year salary) plus a monthly "bonus" of 500rmb + overtime + plus an end-of-semester bonus (x2). If I can stand it, my school wants me for at least 6 years; I hope the Chinese government feels the same way!!
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7969



Joined: 26 Mar 2003
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Location: Coastal Guangdong
PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
just get that chinese passport.... then you can stay here forever.... even if you dont want to LOL
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james s



Joined: 07 Feb 2007
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