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How do I find a job in Shanghai?
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marg252



Joined: 25 Mar 2007
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 7:18 pm    Post subject: How do I find a job in Shanghai? Reply with quote
I'm brand-new to esl, tefl certified, but no degree. What is the best way to find a job? Do I need to just fly over and look? I am hoping to find a job ahead of time that will fly me over.

Thanks!
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eslstudies



Joined: 17 Dec 2006
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'm sure there are people working in Shanghai without degrees, but be aware:
-these are probably not legal jobs, and as such would not be able to provide a residents permit. In my experience, the Shanghai PSB only issued permits to degree holders.
-they are likely to pay at an hourly rate, and wouldn't provide housing [or an allowance] and certainly not airfare.

There are probably other parts of the country that could meet your requirements. Scroll through the myriad job sites for teaching in China. I believe the Buckland group does not require degrees:
http://www.bucklandgroup.org/sub/job.htm
but caveat emptor. A web search is required on this organisation.
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clark.w.griswald



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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I second eslstudies comments above.

Finding good teaching jobs in Shanghai is quite difficult as the market is so competitive. If you add the fact that you don't have a degree then you are going to find it just that much harder. Any work that you do find is likely going to be the sort of work that you really don't want.

You could however find work in the areas surrounding Shanghai - Zhejiang and Jiangsu provinces - and within an hour or two travel to Shanghai. These positions will generally offer housing and other benefits.

Without a degree though you will find that most of the positions you get offered (if not all in places like Shanghai) are going to be illegal from the perspective of not being able to give you residency for working here. Many people do that sort of work and get away with it but it pays to be aware of your situation here.
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in_asia_bill



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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I keep coming across this, 'TEFL certified, but no degree'. How can you get a TEFL certificate without having a degree? I always thought a degree was a prerequisite for being accepted onto a TEFL certificate course.
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foreignDevil



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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
in_asia_bill wrote:
I keep coming across this, 'TEFL certified, but no degree'. How can you get a TEFL certificate without having a degree? I always thought a degree was a prerequisite for being accepted onto a TEFL certificate course.


easy.. get a worthless online degree.

And to the OP... almost no job in China will fly you over. I say "almost" just to cover my butt.. perhaps there is one or two out there that do. But I have never ever heard of this.


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eslstudies



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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 4:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
in_asia_bill wrote:
I always thought a degree was a prerequisite for being accepted onto a TEFL certificate course.

A post grad certificate does. Your generic brand only requires $$$ to get in.
And Foeign Devil, I assumed the OP meant airfare re-imbursement, but I could be wrong.
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in_asia_bill



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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
foreignDevil wrote:
in_asia_bill wrote:
I keep coming across this, 'TEFL certified, but no degree'. How can you get a TEFL certificate without having a degree? I always thought a degree was a prerequisite for being accepted onto a TEFL certificate course.


easy.. get a worthless online degree.


Okay, let me rephrase that: How can you get a TEFL certificate without having a real (non-Internet, non-self-printed, non-bought-off-the-back-of a-matchbox) degree? I always thought a (non-Internet, non-self-printed, non-bought-off-the-back-of a-matchbox) degree was a prerequisite for being accepted onto a TEFL certificate course.
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tw



Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
in_asia_bill wrote:
I keep coming across this, 'TEFL certified, but no degree'. How can you get a TEFL certificate without having a degree? I always thought a degree was a prerequisite for being accepted onto a TEFL certificate course.


There are many companies that offer TEFL training without a degree. The graduates get a CERTIFICATE and NOT a diploma or TEFL post-graduate degree. Also, these are not all online TEFL courses. I got my TEFL certificate through www.oxfordseminars.com, and quite a few Vancouver ESL schools offer TEFL certificate/diploma courses.
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