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judyandherhorse

Joined: 13 Dec 2006 Posts: 36 Location: Australia
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 10:40 am Post subject: Dodgy jobs |
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Hi All,
How do you know if the job you are applying for in another country is dodgy or not? This is my main concern, as I have been offered MANY jobs from MANY countries without much concern from them (i.e they dont seem to care about seeing copies of my degrees...).
Makes me wonder...
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spiral78

Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 11:58 am Post subject: |
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Schools that hire from abroad aren't wildly concerned about your credentials in advance because they are aware that you quite likely aren't really coming in any case. |
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johnnyenglishteacher
Joined: 11 Aug 2006 Posts: 41
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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If they're serious they'll offer you a contract before you go out there, or at least show you an example of one. |
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TheLongWayHome

Joined: 07 Jun 2006 Posts: 1016 Location: San Luis Piojosi
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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Wait, aren't all TEFL jobs dodgy? I'd go for the one that seems to be the least dodgy, and buy a return flight. Worst case scenario - you go on holiday for a month. |
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spiral78

Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 12:35 am Post subject: |
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No, all TEFL jobs aren't dodgy. Though some percentage of entry-level ones may be. |
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DNK
Joined: 22 Jan 2007 Posts: 236 Location: the South
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 1:09 am Post subject: |
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Holiday for a month in India sounds fantastic, except for the fact I can't afford it
All I can say is that the companies I've applied to in Japan have generally requested a diploma, TEFL cert (if applicable), etc, many upfront, and that includes the known shifty place I went for. |
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lemonsong
Joined: 06 Jan 2007 Posts: 11
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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No easy answer but I've always said that a good way to check a place out is to request phone numbers or emails of as many people as possible who work there, or have worked there.
Not failsafe but can be helpful. |
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Sgt Killjoy

Joined: 26 Jun 2004 Posts: 438
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Posted: Sun May 20, 2007 1:11 am Post subject: |
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Well, you can indeed do a few things to avoid getting a dodgy job.
1) The simple method is to google the name of the school. You may have to go through several pages, if it's a big school, but you have a good chance of finding anything negative written about it on the net.
2) Do a search of Dave's old posts.
3) Check out a school rating site like TEFLWatch.
If you can't find anything negative after checking 1,2 and 3 then you can breathe a small sigh of relief. Consistently bad schools are usually talked about in depth on the net.
If a school can clear 1,2, and 3, I wouldn't stop right there, I would then advise asking the right questions. I'm sure other posters can advise you on the right questions to ask before signing on the dotted line. |
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