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cgage



Joined: 14 Oct 2006
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 11:32 pm    Post subject: Over the counter meds Reply with quote

This has been partly discussed before but since I'm getting ready to go and work in Mex: I am an insulin diabetic and also use pain medications which are controlled substances in the US. A doctor told me that in Mex you can get a whole lot of stuff like this over the counter. I also heard Rx's are easy to get from doctors (not always the case in the US)
I also heard that some pharmacies have a doctor on duty that can write them.
Anybody know about this?
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J Sevigny



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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had mixed experiences with this kind of thing myself. Generally, in Guadalajara, you have to have a prescription for any "controlled medication." This is not true in border cities where pharmacies make tons of money selling zanax and valium to kids from Texas.

Pharmacies here are surprisingly serious about the prescription thing.

For me, for the medication I need, it's come down to finding a doctor who will give me the prescriptions I require. I've found that private docs and high priced private hospital clinics (say 300 pesos for a consultation) are more accomodating in this regard than say, the IMSS or the DIF, both government clinics.
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cangringo



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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm, here in Monterrey they don't seem to care too much about the prescription thing, however I am asthmatic not diabetic. I know you can get antibiotics without prescription and we have some pharmacies with doctors on site and they're cheap so I don't think it will be difficult for you in a place like this.
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hlamb



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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It depends on what kind of drug you need. Antibiotics are non-prescription, so if you know what you need (generic name), no problem. The same goes for birth control pills. However, I recently needed Valium (related to dental surgery) and I needed a prescription for that and had to visit 7 pharmacies before I found one who stocked the stuff.
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El Gallo



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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because antibiotics and some other drugs that would normally require prescriptions in the US and Canada can be bought over the counter, it's pretty tempting to self medicate in Mexico (especially if you are a poor English teacher who thinks he / she can't afford a doctor visit). Please be careful. I bought an antibiotic for an ear infection when I first came here and spoke less Spanish. Unknowingly, I took a penicillin derivative I was allergic to and made my problem a lot worse. At the very least, go to the doctors sometimes adjacent to the pharmacies for an inexpensive consultation before you self medicate. It may save your life.

Also many Americans and Canadians overuse antibiotics. The reason I'm allergic to penicillin is that every time I sneezed or sniffled as a child, my parents ordered a shot of penicillin causing me to develop an allergy. Most colds are caused by viruses which aren't eliminated by antibiotics. Overuse of antibiotics in a country where they are readily available can cause allergies or cause the drugs to be ineffective as bacteria develop immunities because of their over-use.
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hlamb



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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

El Gallo wrote:

Also many Americans and Canadians overuse antibiotics. The reason I'm allergic to penicillin is that every time I sneezed or sniffled as a child, my parents ordered a shot of penicillin causing me to develop an allergy. Most colds are caused by viruses which aren't eliminated by antibiotics. Overuse of antibiotics in a country where they are readily available can cause allergies or cause the drugs to be ineffective as bacteria develop immunities because of their over-use.


Absolutely true. Super-bacteria are becoming a huge problem because they are resistant to common antibiotics. That means that we have to keep developing stronger and different drugs to combat them. It's not a good cycle to be in.

Also, antibiotics are hard on the body because they don't just kill the bad bacteria. It's a good idea to be cautious when using them, and to take the full dosage (the whole bottle) when you do need them.
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ls650



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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

El Gallo wrote:
The reason I'm allergic to penicillin is that every time I sneezed or sniffled as a child, my parents ordered a shot of penicillin causing me to develop an allergy.

Is that true? I had no idea that overuse of penicillin could cause one to become allergic.
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El Gallo



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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure how common it is but I developed the allergy at 30. The doctors told me my body had built up an intolerance of it. It is pretty serious because alternative antibiotics sometimes aren't as effective and sulfa drugs sometimes have an interaction with sunlight.
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J Sevigny



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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I highly recommend staying away from the 20 peso, Dr. Simi-type doctors. I don't understand my colleagues who complain about med companies in the states being in bed with doctors and then come to Mexico and visit doctors whose mission is to sell medicine made by the company they work for. I've heard several horror stories about Dr. Simi but can't verify them so won't repeat them.

What I can say is that DIF clinics contract real doctors and in Jalisco charge 35 pesos for a visit. Any decent position should give you access to IMSS, which despite what people say, has been a lifesaver for many, many Mexicans. There's also a way to independently enroll in IMSS for something like 1,800 pesos a year.
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MELEE



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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I decided not to say anything when I saw the first post this morning, but now I can't keep quiet.

PLEASE don't use the DIF (Desarollo Integral de la Familia). They have a limited budget that they use to help poor families in Mexico. No matter how little an English teacher in Mexico might be making, you do not classify as "poor". If you use their services you are taking away from what they can offer to people in need.

IMSS has a set list of medications that the doctors can prescribe for each ailment. So some of our teachers have had good luck and can get the medications they need for long term care free from IMSS, but others haven't had such luck. One such teacher had previously tried the drug IMSS uses for migranes and knew that it didn't work for her. Another teacher with high blood pressure was on another medicine in the states, came here and tried the IMSS medicine for a while, but it did not work well for him so he had to go back to buying his old medicine out of pocket.

In my city a consultation with a private doctor only costs 100 to 300 pesos. So many times I prefer to pay the 100 than wait half the day at IMSS.
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danielita



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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MELEE wrote:

In my city a consultation with a private doctor only costs 100 to 300 pesos. So many times I prefer to pay the 100 than wait half the day at IMSS.


I agree with you MELEE. There is a private doctor around the corner from me. It is always faster than going to IMSS.
My rule is that the IMSS is for really big things and illnesses that will keep me away from work longer than 3 days. My school pays for the first 3 days of sick leave--with proof of course--anything longer than 3 days IMSS starts to kick in and pay for your sick leave. So, if it looks like I will be out longer than 3 days, I have no choice but to spend my afternoon at IMSS.

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srtab



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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 4:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about birth control pills? I am considering bringing a supply, but my health care will only give me the cheaper price for 1 month at a time. (The regular price is $50 / month! Ouch!) Soooo... not sure what to do. I considered going off of it...

any advice, ladies?
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J Sevigny



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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DIF has a limited budget. IMSS has a limited budget. So it's OK to go to IMSS but not DIF? Hmmm.

Those limited budgets come from our taxes and not all of us make as much as you might think, Melee. We have teachers making 2,000 a month and can't afford a visit to a private doctor. But most of us at my school, I think, pay taxes. I do, anyway.

I go to the DIF here in Guadalajara. There is generally nobody waiting to see the doctor. I pay the 35 pesos. The doctor sees me, recommends a medicine, and I go out and buy it. It costs the doctor less than 30 minutes and costs the DIF virtually nothing besides maybe the price of the little piece of paper on which they write my name.

My point is not that everyone should go out and run to the DIF. My point is that if you are broke and sick, as I have been at times, DIF is a better option than Dr. Simi.
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MELEE



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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

J Sevigny wrote:
DIF has a limited budget. IMSS has a limited budget. So it's OK to go to IMSS but not DIF? Hmmm.

Those limited budgets come from our taxes and not all of us make as much as you might think, Melee. We have teachers making 2,000 a month and can't afford a visit to a private doctor. But most of us at my school, I think, pay taxes. I do, anyway.


I pay directly into IMSS, I do not pay into DIF which recieves funds from a variety of areas some maybe from my ISR taxes. In my city, the doctors (who are not there all time), volunteer a couple of hour a week to help the disadvantaged who cannot pay the very same doctors in their private practices. Several times a year, they bring in specialists, opthomologists came last month to do cataract surgies. If you have native English speaking teachers who make 2,000 a month and don't have other sources of income, maybe they should really re-evaluate their life. This board is for teachers who come from other countries to teach English. While I would welcome some Mexican teachers on the board, you never seem them participating do you? The closest is Freddy and he's making a lot more than 2,000 a month. DIF is for locals. If that 2,000 a month is for a full time position, you really ought to be ashamed of your institution, our gardeners make more than that.
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cangringo



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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wasn't suggesting that one should overuse antibiotics...I know about the superbugs etc. I was just pointing out that if one does need them they are available without prescription here.

I have heard horror stories about the IMSS here...so I guess it depends - I have also heard good things about Dr. Simi. I do know that I'm not going to a specialist every time I have a pain like people here do. We have lots of clinics around but it's hard to find one open in the middle of the night. I have also heard about people being left at the scene of an accident because they didn't have enough money to pay for an ambulance...that is scary.
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