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Work permits becoming easier to get???

 
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spycatcher reincarnated



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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 11:15 am    Post subject: Work permits becoming easier to get??? Reply with quote

Articles like this were in a few papers today:

http://www.nhandan.com.vn/english/life/030507/life_fr.htm
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legaleagle



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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm an American, and I now have a Work Permit and a Temporary Residence Card, both good for three years!! My wife and child also have Residency under my permit and so no more visas!! Another benefit is the respect one gets when legal - I just came through the airport from Thailand and the immigration lady was super-sweet, raving on about how good a three-year permit was!!
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just noel



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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

legaleagle wrote:
I'm an American, and I now have a Work Permit and a Temporary Residence Card, both good for three years!! My wife and child also have Residency under my permit and so no more visas!! Another benefit is the respect one gets when legal - I just came through the airport from Thailand and the immigration lady was super-sweet, raving on about how good a three-year permit was!!


The '3 year' does NOT apply to regular teachers.

Only to someone who has a title of, or equivalent to a "director."

This is the same for the residence card.

Your information posted above

****does not apply to regular teachers here****
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legaleagle



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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe that the length of WP and Residence is tied to the duration of contract. If a school will give you a three-year contract then you can get a three-year WP and Residence card. One and two-year contracts get the equivalent, respectively.

My main point here is that it is possible for even Americans and Brits to get a WP. Lots of hoops, but doable.
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just noel



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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

legaleagle wrote:
I believe that the length of WP and Residence is tied to the duration of contract. If a school will give you a three-year contract then you can get a three-year WP and Residence card. One and two-year contracts get the equivalent, respectively.


With respect to you legaleagle, I don't know one teacher, not one teacher who has these circumstances.

And, you have a degree in law (J.D.) from the United States.

My point is, you not in a different situation than EFL teachers are in.

Apples and eggs, as they say.

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My main point here is that it is possible for even Americans and Brits to get a WP. Lots of hoops, but doable.


My American colleagues and their schools have completely given up getting a WP. It's technically possible, but so difficult, costly, and time consuming, the schools are just signing American teachers up for 3 month contracts. The government is fine with this, encourages it, and the schools and teachers are happy as well.
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laconic



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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 10:51 pm    Post subject: Roll Reply with quote

Legaleagle's situation seems very unique and not generally reflective of the situation for the average English teacher in Vietnam.

As for WPs being "doable" in Vietnam, it just shouldn't be that difficult to be completely legal in any country.

When it is, well, you have exactly what you have in Vietnam. Rolling Eyes
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legaleagle



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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guys, it ain't that tough for Americans. It seems complicated, but it is doable. But then again, I've never taken "no" for an answer. And I would also say try to get a work permit in Germany or the UK. Good luck!

You call up the cops in your state, and figure out how to get a report from them. You then FedEx a written request to the cops, with a return FedEx label, and then you FedEx their report to the Sec of State with a return label.

You call up your university and ask them to do a letter for you. They will generally take credit cards. You have them FedEx their letter to you, and then you FedEx that to the Sec of State.

You can even probably send both the cops and uni docs to the Sec of State at the same time.

Voila! It's Work Permit time!
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JPrufrock



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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just noel wrote:
Apples and eggs, as they say.


Actually we say, "Apples and Oranges."
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just noel



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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JPrufrock wrote:
just noel wrote:
Apples and eggs, as they say.


Actually we say, "Apples and Oranges."



People say both. I have said both. The point is, falsely comparing two things.

I think you get the drift.


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