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[u24tc]

Go skiing lol

[tofuman]

OP,

When you ask about teaching part time at another than your sponsoring job, are you asking for permission? You say that it is only the contract that forbids you to so do, not the visa. To people with personall integrity, scruples and ethical principles, it is not allright for you to give your word by signing a contract and have no intention of fulfilling it. That makes you unscrupulous, a liar, and a deceiver.

While it is true that the Chinese, at times, abuse the contract, they are just emerging from decades of atheistic communist rule. They have some excuse for being unscrupulous liars. What about you? What's your excuse?

While it is true that you may "get away" with it, if you happen to run afoul of the PSB, you can be levied with a stiff fine. For instance if you are working part time at a training school, a rival of that school could report you. Your employers, theoretically, could use the fact that you are employed illegally as an excuse to "burn" you. If they do, you have no recourse.

An FAO warned me about working illegally because the PSB had recently fined another FT 10,000RMB or so.

How about being a principled individual and and keeping your word because it is the right thing to do? Ever consider doing that?

[u24tc]

Such righteous talk.. but totally based on assumptions you yourself have conjured up.

Next time, think before you post. No one said anything about not fufilling the contract. I was merely asking if you fufil your contract duties and have extra time and you want to earn extra money, can you.

No one said or I is promoting 'illegal' activities so there is no need for the high almighty talk.

[Steppenwolf]

[vikdk]

[jammish]

The salaries that most Chinese schools pay are low enough for 'moonlighting' not to be morally abhorrent. My current school pays me 10,500 RMB a month for a very very reasonable schedule, well above average, and moreover have no problem with my working outside.

Also, remember that most Chinese teachers teach kids outside for a very very nice extra bit of wodge - some will get 10 kids who pay 50 RMB an hour each, 500 RMB an hour. Don't be fooled by the "we're so puur" nonsense.

[tofuman]

[jammish]

Do you have a Degree in being overtly pompous and bombastic or does it come naturally?

[vikdk]

[u24tc]

Tofuman,

Quoting you:
''OP. This is what you said. I repeat: "Because it is only up to the contract to say I can't work elsewhere and not the visa? Correct? "

Based on my words... how have you read this because I can only see your remarks as having read this wrong.


What I basically said was if the contract does not mention anything about working solely for that employer, nor does the visa, is it ok to work for someone else.

You then assumed that I would not fufil those contract duties and then you also talk about the morality and how bad it is. You made those up yourself, I said nothing about that.

[tofuman]

Since when is being a man of your word, honest, and ethical the same as being bombastic and pompous? Apparently in cyberspace among certain FTs in China.

It used to be said that much of the international business in buying and selling precious gems, conducted largely by hasidic Jews, was conducted on simply a handshake. The reason being that to a "righteous" Jew, his word was binding, a sacred pledge of sorts. If a man's word could not be trusted, a contract would not help. Individuals who welched on their word were ostracized from the business.

Obviously, among the goyim, things are different, but we can certainly aspire to nobility.

[u24tc]

Tofuman.. is this how you speak in real life?

Or you just using a dictionary to make posh words?

[tofuman]

Jammish,

Although never a cop, was that you I observed dancing in army boots and a jock strap at a bar in W Hollywood?

[jammish]

[jamesmollo]