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george61



Joined: 19 Sep 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2003 1:38 am    Post subject: Exams Reply with quote

Just finished giving oral exams to all my Primary students.....God!, I'm cruel....tis the first time any of them have had this experience...and most of them froze solid.....The hardest part was trying to keep a straight face as I watched them. Everything we had done in class was completely gone..
"What is your name?"....".um...er....ahh..".."How old are you?"..".Fine thank you....and you?"
Some were good, of course, but the less outgoing kids certainly struggled. Made me remember when I was supposed to be learning French in High School...Ah well,at least they will be ready for it next time.Hopefully.
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Steiner



Joined: 21 Apr 2003
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Location: Hunan China

PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2003 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you have them sitting under a heat lamp? Maybe they wouldn't be as nervous if you didn't keep zapping them with the cattle prod. I found that helped my students to relax last semester, no cattle prods.

It's disheartening to see them forget everything they've just learned.
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Roger



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2003 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't want to be rude, but questions such as "how are you?" and what's your name?" are utter nonsense that I leave to CHinese teachers to "examine".
Primary school kids need to learn how to respond in given situations, using English. Most of the time, this involves giving them English instructions. It is necessary to test whether they actually understand, and act according to my instructions. That's a meaningful dialogue.
For instance, I would tell a student to walk backward to the door. If he remains seated, then he obviously won't pass the test. Simple orders such as "Stand up!" and "Sit down!" take time for them to learn to react to appropraitely. Learning how to respond to an abstract question such as "how are you?" is beyond them! After all, they haven't learnt to say, "I am not well/happy today/...this is my problem..."
Just imagine: did your mom "teach" you English in such an alien way?
Well, nor do Chinese parents teach their kids Chinese in this fashion!
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george61



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2003 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roger, I start the session with "good Morning. How are you?, as I start each class. I had hoped this would relax them, ie. something familiar and comfortable....but in some cases it didn't work. They can all say their names..and they can all say "Fine thank you. And you?" I am trying to break this habit,but as you know, it is ingrained.
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NumberOneSon



Joined: 03 Jul 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2003 1:58 am    Post subject: Re: Exams Reply with quote

george61 wrote:
"What is your name?"....".um...er....ahh..".."How old are you?"..".Fine thank you....and you?"


Had the same experience myself a few times. The students often
confuse "how OLD are you" with "how are you" and give the pat
answer "fine, thank you...and you?"

I think the "how are you" question is a bit odd, but "how OLD are
you" is a very common question for a child to answer. I just taught
them the difference between the two and asked the question "how
MANY YEARS OLD are you" if they confused the two on a test.

Usually that clue was enough if they had the basic vocabulary down.
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