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Shenyang worth teaching there?

 
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AnthonyWong



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 12:31 am    Post subject: Shenyang worth teaching there? Reply with quote

Hi,

I have heard Shenyang is an industrial city. Is it as bad as everyone says it is? How are the winters? How is the nightlife there? Any info regarding Shenyang would greatly be appreciated.
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MartinK



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The Central Scrutinizer



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 10:07 am    Post subject: Shen Yang Reply with quote

Shen Yang has many drawbacks environmentally, but it could be worse, just stop off at Ben Xi on the way to Dalian for a taste of worst case senario. Shen Yang does have quite a bit to offer in terms of history and education. Shen Yang stands out historically as the capital of Manchuria prior to the Qing dynasties ruling of China, and for that has a palace and a couple of tombs of early Qing emperors. Also, it has a number of Universities there as well as language schools.
I never found the people in Shen Yang rude at all, on the contrary, people are quite happy to invite you into there homes for dinner. Students there love to party more than most other cities in China and in this respect Shen Yang can be hard on the liver.
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Roger



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And don't forget that most cities in Manchuria are now a scrapheap, huge industrialised districts that stand idle as the state is withdrawing from running factories, and new employers are scarce.
High unemployment rate, and in winter coalfire-induced smogs.
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JDYoung



Joined: 21 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I arrived in Shenyang on Aug 20 and started teaching here Sep 1 so I haven't experienced a full year's worth of weather yet. The entire city seems to be under construction so there is a lot of dust. I'm told the pollution from coal powered electricity plants and industries increases in the winter. Since I'm from the Canadian prairies I doubt the weather will bother me. The shopping is incredible. The traffic is manic. The people generally helpful and very interested in strange looking folks in their midst as they are not used to foreigners. Shenyang is not a tourist destination. There is interesting history largely undiscovered by westerners so most places aren't crowded. It's the provincial capital and the 5th largest city in China so there are lots of uni's, colleges and language schools. All in all, I'm having a blast. PM me if you want other info.
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The Central Scrutinizer



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 2:50 pm    Post subject: Ya Reply with quote

Ya, just like America before the white man.
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shenyanggerry



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I lived in Shenyang from February until July this year. I loved it. In winter they heat with lignite so the smell of coal is everywhere. About the first of April, they turn off the heat. With it goes most of the pollution.

To call Shengyang a dirty industrial city is an exageration. Over the past few years they have done a lot of cleaning up. 'Instant' parks are everywhere. I estimate that in 2003, between 100,000 and 250,000 trees were transplanted into the city, trees 2-4 inches in diameter. They are making a real effort to overcome the sins of their heavy industrial past.

Yes there are slums and dirty industrial areas. There are also modern buildings and parks that would make most first world cities green with envy.

And yes, you'll probably see me back there come February.
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NumberOneSon



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2003 2:17 am    Post subject: Re: Shenyang worth teaching there? Reply with quote

AnthonyWong wrote:
Hi,

I have heard Shenyang is an industrial city. Is it as bad as everyone says it is? How are the winters? How is the nightlife there? Any info regarding Shenyang would greatly be appreciated.



Shenyang is industrial, but I thought it was fine, if a bit noisy.

I was a little north of Shenyang in the winter, but I think my
experience was pretty much the same. Bitter cold and probably
a bit polluted from the coal heat.

I seem to recall that one of the schools there, Guan Ya, had a
pretty decent website describing the sites. I used their site a
few times to check out some local sites, but their info needs
some updating.

BTW, I didn't work for Guan Ya, so I can't tell you anything
good or bad about them except that they had a website which
described some of the city's amenities.

I can tell you that they have a lot of the standard stuff like
Walmart, KFC, McD, Pizza Hut, Carrefour, and even a Baskin
Robbins, Dairy Queen, and such. They have a good computer
shopping area, some foreign food shops where you can get
decent cheese and coffee on occasion.

The best pizza is at the Pizza Factory near the computer
shopping city.

Also, Korean BBQ is really good and cheap. Definitely a
bargain for a good night out.
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cheekygal



Joined: 04 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was in Shenyang once to extent my passport [they have consulates of few Embassies there]. It looked empty to me. And it does look big. Yes, compare to other cities it's not THAT clean, but it did look ok. There are a lot of Koreans and Russians there as far as I am concerned. Few foreign companies have business with companies there. It's around 6 hours by train away fromn Harbin. So if you feel like spending your days off somewhere out of the city you can always go there Smile

-cheekybabe
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gerard49



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2003 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well folks,
having seen Shanghai and Beijing, I wouldn't go passed Jiangsu or Zheijiang provinces. Suzhou, Nanjing Yangzhou, Hangzhou are fabulous places to work. They offer western bars and restaurants, supermarkets where you can buy familar foodstuff, scenic tours and good schools, well government owned and run ones that is. The apartments are generally very good, even 5 star in some cases. See my photo suite at www. webshots.com and member name "gerardd49" or just search on "suzhou and teaching". Email me for more info Arrow [email protected] . As far as I'm aware there are several positions in the Wuzhong district for next year.
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