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stuck in Okinawa for a year!
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dove



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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The original poster said she was looking forward to an unheated apartment in February, snuggled under a kotatsu, drinking genmai cha.....that's a cozy image, but you can't live under a kotatsu. Try waking up to an unheated apartment and showering.....it gets (c)old quickly.
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Deicide



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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey OP, you're NOT in Korea and you're going to Japan; shut up and be happy...
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nonsmoker



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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deicide wrote:
Hey OP, you're NOT in Korea and you're going to Japan; shut up and be happy...


What do you have against Korea?
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Deicide



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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nonsmoker wrote:
Deicide wrote:
Hey OP, you're NOT in Korea and you're going to Japan; shut up and be happy...


What do you have against Korea?


If you're asking the question you obviously have never lived and worked here.... Rolling Eyes
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nawlinsgurl



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Location: Kanagawa and feeling Ok....

PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey how about this? You give me your JET placement and I gladly move to Okinawa--and you move to Yokosuka?

You will like Okinawa-just watch out for the flying roaches.
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Lyrajean



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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dove wrote:
The original poster said she was looking forward to an unheated apartment in February, snuggled under a kotatsu, drinking genmai cha.....that's a cozy image, but you can't live under a kotatsu. Try waking up to an unheated apartment and showering.....it gets (c)old quickly.


I've been staying away to avoid all the snarking I seem to have generated, but this merits an explanation. I live in Northern VT have for all my life. Try a non-centrally heated house when it's minus 20 F. And you wake up to discover there is no hot water for a shower -done it many times... I'm used to interior spaces that are about 50-60 degrees.

What I am not so crazy about is perpetually hot weather and being 200+miles and 37000 yen from anywhere else in Japan.

The only useful piece of advice I seem to have gotten from this thread is that yes, Okinawans do speak Japanese so my studying won't have gone to waste.
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flyingkiwi



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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The only useful piece of advice I seem to have gotten from this thread is that yes, Okinawans do speak Japanese so my studying won't have gone to waste.


I knew they spoke Japanese, but I'm wondering how often they speak it as opposed to the Okinawa dialect?
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shuize



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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lyrajean wrote:
I've been staying away to avoid all the snarking I seem to have generated, but this merits an explanation. I live in Northern VT have for all my life. Try a non-centrally heated house when it's minus 20 F. And you wake up to discover there is no hot water for a shower -done it many times... I'm used to interior spaces that are about 50-60 degrees.

What I am not so crazy about is perpetually hot weather and being 200+miles and 37000 yen from anywhere else in Japan.

The only useful piece of advice I seem to have gotten from this thread is that yes, Okinawans do speak Japanese so my studying won't have gone to waste.

Rationalize as much as you like. You're not going to get much sympathy. To most, your complaints sound a lot like this:

"Aww, man. My company just told me I'm going to have to relocate to Hawaii for a year. Don't you all feel bad for me?"
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JimDunlop2



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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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gaijin4life



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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 1:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP: Most likely it will turn out to be a lot better than you think at this point Very Happy Give it a chance.. People adapt to the climate they live in, so like the locals do, Im sure you will find ways to stay cool when its really hot - like being inside w air-con etc during the hottest parts of the day.

It sounds like a great opportunity and experience. A very well-travelled teacher colleague had the opinion that, `you can live anywhere for a year..` I would agree..

In any case, you can transfer after a year with JET right .. ?
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Deicide



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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lyrajean wrote:
dove wrote:
The original poster said she was looking forward to an unheated apartment in February, snuggled under a kotatsu, drinking genmai cha.....that's a cozy image, but you can't live under a kotatsu. Try waking up to an unheated apartment and showering.....it gets (c)old quickly.


I've been staying away to avoid all the snarking I seem to have generated, but this merits an explanation. I live in Northern VT have for all my life. Try a non-centrally heated house when it's minus 20 F. And you wake up to discover there is no hot water for a shower -done it many times... I'm used to interior spaces that are about 50-60 degrees.

What I am not so crazy about is perpetually hot weather and being 200+miles and 37000 yen from anywhere else in Japan.

The only useful piece of advice I seem to have gotten from this thread is that yes, Okinawans do speak Japanese so my studying won't have gone to waste.


Wow, you're a real citizen of the world, aren't you...hehe... Rolling Eyes
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flyingkiwi



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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In any case, you can transfer after a year with JET right .. ?


Actually, you can't do that. You can only move to another prefecture for a very good reason, such as a specific health problem, or getting married.

You can't move, for example, if your boss is a sadist who drinks puppy blood.
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ironopolis



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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I might be wrong but I never saw the OP's initial post as looking for sympathy; expressing disappointment, yes, but asking people to feel sorry, no. Having said that, I'm not surprised by some of the reaction generated.

In my not very recent experience of JET, it seemed that those giving a convincing (but not necessarily completely true) reason for a placement request were generally given what they wanted or not so far off. Those putting down totally different parts of the country seemed to be considered as happy to be placed anywhere. Of course we can all be right with hindsight, but your mistake, lyrajean, was perhaps putting down Fukuoka with Tohoku. If you'd put down a combination of places in northern Japan, you might have had a better chance of being sent there.
Fukuoka wouldn't have given much you more snow in winter than Okinawa, BTW.

I can understand your disappointment however, as I've known quite a few JETs who wondered what the point of asking them for placement preferences was, when the place they ended up in had absolutely zero connection with the preferences they expressed. I suppose the moral of the story is to re-emphasize one of the big drawbacks of JET - the sheer unpredictability and inflexibility of where you'll end up.

To try and give you something relating to what you asked, lyrajean; Okinawa is usually agreed to be amongst the cheapest areas of Japan, so you'll very likely be better off in real terms than many of your fellow JETs elsewhere. I've known a few people who worked in Okinawa - some who wanted the more tropical lifestyle, some who weren't bothered about that at all - and all them said they liked living there. From what I've heard, I have the impression that people in Okinawa seem easier to establish real friendships with than many other parts of Japan.

Distance-wise you are indeed more isolated from the rest of Japan in Okinawa. But bear in mind that you'll be near an airport, and then only a couple of hours away from pretty much any other airport in Japan. Whereas in many parts of northern Japan, you could end up being a few hours away from the nearest airport, which probably wouldn't have the range of destinations than Okinawa has.


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azarashi sushi



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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 2:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I feel your pain Lyra Jean. I've been to Okinawa and liked it but I wouldn't want to live there either. As you say, it's very isolated and difficult to travel to other parts of Japan. The smaller islands are nice but Naha (and the surrounding area), where you are most likely to be placed is a HOLE. It's hideous and there are no good beaches nearby. And what's more, every second person is American ... But you might like that. Try to get a car when you get there and you'll be able to get out of Naha and explore the northern part of the island on the weekends.

On the plus side, I think the pace of life is a lot more laid back than on the "main island" and people are probably a lot friendlier.
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canuck



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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 2:11 am    Post subject: Re: stuck in Okinawa for a year! Reply with quote

shuize wrote:
Lyrajean wrote:
I've been staying away to avoid all the snarking I seem to have generated, but this merits an explanation. I live in Northern VT have for all my life. Try a non-centrally heated house when it's minus 20 F. And you wake up to discover there is no hot water for a shower -done it many times... I'm used to interior spaces that are about 50-60 degrees.

What I am not so crazy about is perpetually hot weather and being 200+miles and 37000 yen from anywhere else in Japan.

The only useful piece of advice I seem to have gotten from this thread is that yes, Okinawans do speak Japanese so my studying won't have gone to waste.

Rationalize as much as you like. You're not going to get much sympathy. To most, your complaints sound a lot like this:

"Aww, man. My company just told me I'm going to have to relocate to Hawaii for a year. Don't you all feel bad for me?"


Well put.

On another note, I won the lottery. I won a 5 million dollars. I was hoping for 10 million though.

Low and behold, they had the wisdom (or lack there of) to let me choose if I want it in one lump some or over 20 years, when I had no particular desire argue.

LOTTERY!

Anyway, if anyone has any heads up on what its like win the lottery, I'm looking for inspiring stories, things to do, etc... I'm not the outdoorsy type. And I have no idea WTF I am going to do since I come from cold climate and all my suits are wool. Was looking forward to an unheated apartment with feet snuggled under a kotatsu drinking genmaicha in February.

And BTW, pls don't tell me to register over at Big D. I tried and my acc. never got activated....

Rolling Eyes


Enjoy Okinawa on JET or don't accept the posting and join Nova, Aeon, ECC or GEOS, if they will accept you. Watch the Wizard of Oz before you come too, because you won't be in Northern Vermont anymore.
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