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comrade in arms
Joined: 01 May 2007
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| molly farquharson wrote: |
i've been using cutting edge in one of our formerly interlang classes, and i think our books are much better, flaws and all. in our books the grammar is clearly explained and you don't have to look in the back of the book for a minimal explanation. you don't have to guess the grammar. there are lots of examples. the idea is to support inexperienced teachers who often don't know the grammar, especially at the upper levels. the books also include clear teaching of writing and reading skills, as well as strategies for listening, pronunciation, and speaking, most of which are not addressed in most course books. we have heard the complaints and we have asked for feedback, but, surprise surprise, when we ask teachers to help, they refuse. it is so much easier to complain....
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I am sorry, but the new ET books are incurable! Not only are they unusable, but also smack of racism and fascism. I am not defending Cutting Edge, Headway or whatever, but they are proper EFL course books which reflect the recent trends in teaching English as a foreign language and they have been quite succesful. You cannot compare the c.rap ET books with them. They do not deserve to be called books, actually. You must be confused. This thing reminds me of a racist joke (sorry) about an Irish guy who hijacks a British submarine and asks for �1,000,000 and a parachute.
Please, do yourself a favour, give up, try opening a cafe/bar or something, before it is too late. |
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Baba Alex
Joined: 17 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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| molly farquharson wrote: |
we are in the process of editing the books and perhaps comrade in arms would like to help, since he is so critical. he is good at taking examples out of context, so he could offer some concrete suggestions instead of taking potshots.
i've been using cutting edge in one of our formerly interlang classes, and i think our books are much better, flaws and all. in our books the grammar is clearly explained and you don't have to look in the back of the book for a minimal explanation. you don't have to guess the grammar. there are lots of examples. the idea is to support inexperienced teachers who often don't know the grammar, especially at the upper levels. the books also include clear teaching of writing and reading skills, as well as strategies for listening, pronunciation, and speaking, most of which are not addressed in most course books.
we have heard the complaints and we have asked for feedback, but, surprise surprise, when we ask teachers to help, they refuse. it is so much easier to complain.... |
Sorry Molly, but when you mean guess the grammar, isn't that the "discovery" method? Also, doesn't that having to look for information in different place of the book ultimately help the students remember?
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Golightly
Joined: 08 Feb 2005
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Location: in the bar, next to the raki
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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Haven't you heard of the new 'discovery' method?
You look in the new ET books, then b.ugger off and find the thing you're looking for in a proper book.  |
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readdave
Joined: 29 Apr 2007
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This is a completely random question, but...
Do they sell peanut butter in Istanbul? |
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Listener
Joined: 17 Jun 2005
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Location: Istanbul
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| Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 3:16 am Post subject: |
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yes. but it doesn't taste the same.... 
fistik ezmezsi |
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justme
Joined: 18 May 2004
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Location: Istanbul
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| Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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| But make sure it's yer fıstığı ezmesi, otherwise you get oversweet hazlenut paste |
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FGT
Joined: 14 Sep 2003
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Location: Turkey
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| Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 11:57 pm Post subject: |
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| In Kipa there are two types on sale, both produced by the same manufacturer (Turkish), one is sweet and yucky, the other is a close approximation of peanut butter (smooth not crunchy though). "Polmak Gold - classic peanut butter" works, at least as far as a limey's taste buds can detect. |
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Listener
Joined: 17 Jun 2005
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Location: Istanbul
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 2:25 am Post subject: ricotta cheese |
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on a slightly related note, Carrefour at Tepe Nautulis has ricotta cheese for 4.75 a package..... If only I were in the mood for lasagne now........  |
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justme
Joined: 18 May 2004
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Location: Istanbul
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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Lor peynir is a perfectly acceptable stand-in for ricotta, and much cheaper!
Maybe it is ricotta, who knows. But I made some ravioli with it awhile back, and some canneloni, and it worked just fine... |
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dmb
Joined: 12 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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| I recently brought back the finest selection of cheeses known to man from the uk. I promptly stuck them in the freezer. However I have discovered that cheese doesn't freeze ver | | |
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