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madison01



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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 3:59 pm    Post subject: A question of economics Reply with quote

I have recently left the world of EFL teaching into something better paid. I was a DoS of a small school and regularly had to deal with requests for higher pay, better resources etc. Now, whilst I understood that good teachers don't get the money their education, training and workload would suggest they should, I also knew how the school's owner and costed the courses and that the teachers were never going to get what they wanted. I also knew that a lot of other schools did it pretty much the same way and that their teachers were paid a similarly low rate.

As I'm now moving away from this field I thought it might be useful to let you know what I do. Maybe you already do, if so I apologise for sounding patronising.

The basic model is simple:

Let's say the average price for a course is �100 (I know it's more but 100 is much easier to deal with) a percentage of that will go to the agent. usually between 15% and 25%

So the school will get a maximum of �85.00

The basic economic model to work out profit margins is:

50% Variable costs
25% Fixed costs
25% Profit (15% to the director 10% to be reinvested)

so �85 = �42.50 - Variable costs + �21.25 - Fixed costs = �63.75. Leaving �21.25 for the Director/Owner of which �12.75 goes to Director/Owner, the rest goes back into the school.

So if a student is paying �300 a week, the Director/Owner is aiming for �38.25 to come to them.

The fixed costs can't be changed (usually) Permanent staff, office rent, rates, heating and light, cleaning, phones etc.. So the main area to find profit is the Variable costs, unfortunately for teachers, they are variable costs. The number of students determines the number of teachers. The amount paid to the teachers also affects the variable costs; Other variables can be resources, leisure for the students, room hire, anything that's affected by how many students come through the door.

The big thing about this is that the Owner/director will have spoken to an accountant who will tell them the final profit they should be making from a student. And that's where the owner will start from.

So if an owner knows that they should be making �25 from ever student, and it costs them �25 in fixed costs for every student, then it looks a bit like this:

�25 - Profit
�25 - Fixed costs
�50 - Variable
�17.64 - to the agent
Total �117.64

All well and good, however, if this was too much to compete with other schools in the area there's no way the schools ever going to get enough students. The owner can't lower the fixed costs, and lower the profit would mean there's no point in opening the school, the agent has to get their 15% so the variables get squeezed.

�25 profit
�25 fixed costs
�15 to the agent (15%)
�35 Variable costs (15% less)

So teachers and resources etc. get squeezed because it's the only way to operate at the desired profit margin. With the hundreds of teachers going through CELTAs and TESOLs every year owners look at teachers with lots of experience and education with a need for a bigger salary vs. a newbie 21 year-old who'll work til they get fed up and move on. The simple truth is this, A teacher who earns �10 an hour will work hard until they realise they've been ripped off to be replced by the same vs. a teacher who will teach effectively that costs 50% more.

If you wnat to know why you don't get paid as much as you should the simple answer is this. To owners you are a variable cost, and variable costs neeed to be kept as low as possible.

I am talking about private language schools here, I know there are better paid jobs in EFL outside these institutions, however, the majority of teachers teach in these places and I felt it might give a better insight into why you're are never going to earn as much as you deserve here.


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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All very straightforward and easy to understand economics, I agree. Let me just point out that you said "usually" those overhead costs and student fees are fixed. Well, you can't change the cost of heat and electricity, but if your program is good enough to attract more students or students who stay longer, then you can afford to raise prices. You will have to when the price of heat and electricity goes up (or the minimum wage for your PT staff).

More students, students who stay longer...

You might need more teachers, or you just might want to reward the teachers you have now, expecially if you simply give them more or bigger classes.

We are a commodity, yes, but thoughtful business owners will appreciate what it takes to keep the clients coming and keep the teachers happy.
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Justin Trullinger



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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The economics are straightforward- agreed.

But most "fixed" costs are based on decisions. A high rent or low rent building? Buy it, or rent/lease it? And there are many places where EFL is taught that an agent doesn't get %15. (What do these agents do, anyway? We have no agents.)

Non-teaching staff our necessary- it is also necessary to make sure that your staffing levels reasonably reflect the volume of your business. This is one way to keep variable costs as low as possible. By having effective, efficient staff, in appropriate numbers and at appropriate salaries.

But underpaying people (teachers, or anybody else) is NOT the answer to reducing variable costs. Because this keeps turnover high, and staff satisfaction low- but of which negatively affect customer satisfaction. If you have happy staff, who stick around, it really makes a difference in terms of helping you to have happy students. (Meaning return customers.)

I run the English education program for a midsized non-profit organisation. I try to run it as lean (no waste) as I can. But for every $10 that comes in, on average, between 6 and 7 leave in the pocket of a teacher. A teacher, by the way, without a lot of benefits (sorry, but economics are real), but with health insurance, a legal visa, and good staff support, adequate materials, and training opportunities.

We've got a great staff. And pardon me, but we deserve it.

Our happy, professional teachers make such a great impression on students that our volume is up- REALLY up. A good 250% up in the nearly 30 months I've been in this job.

THere are various ways to do this.

One is what I call the plantation owner mentality. On a plantation, income, tied to the land, is theoretically fixed, and cannot increase- therefore, literally every penny paid to a serf come out of the owner's pocket. And therefore, the owner's income is literally maximized by paying the little people as little as possible. (Maintaining variable costs low, also called protecting the margin.)

But try this- what if you intentionally reduce the margin, by trying to keep staff wages as high as the market will allow, and by pressing to keep end costs/client costs as low as possible? What might happen? When you're offering the best services (by paying for happy staff and good resources) and charging less than other schools who actually pay less to their staff than you do?

I'm in the process of trying this experiment. the most immediate result appears to be that your volume pretty much explodes. And big volume increases beat tiny cost shavings (keeping variable costs down) any day.

Now I only wish I knew how to apply one part of your model, Madison. The director (me) who is not the owner, does NOT get the percentages of the total that you're referring to. And I would be happy to...


all the best,

Justin
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Stephen Jones



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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The key to financial success in language schools is class size. You need to work out your break even point in number of students; after that every extra student in a class is pure profit.
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But Justin, you say that you work for a no profit org. So from that $10, 6 goes to the teacher and the rest in re-investment and fixed costs.

So, if profit were an issue and 99% of businesses of course need this where would it come from? 20% isnt too much to ask. So then your teachers salary would have to be cut from 6 to 4 dollars. A 33% cut in salaries. How happy would those teachers be then?

Oh and NGO's dont pay tax do they? better make that a 50% cut in salary. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't forget the ongoing costs of keeping a school licensed, the cost of visas and work permits for employees (some employers DO pay them!), the cost of contributory social services taxes, health insurance - and other costs we may not be aware of. In Thailand, for example, there is even a sign tax - for the sign out in front of your business. Have you considered thoses costs?

And - in most developing countries the the cost of uh . . . "tea money" for the officials who process (or don't process!) your paperwork to make your school legal.

What about the costs of advertising, flyers, commissions to people who refer students to you?

I think it is quite easy to quess many costs - but there are many we don't know about.

And . . . what about the owner recouping losses from the early years when the business was bleeding money and s/he was losing their shirt?

What about the need to build a fund for the future when economic downturns mean that people cut back on language school classes for their children? When the school has to really tough it out to survive? (I have friends in this very situation right now - 20 years of a successful school - and struggling on credit card borrowing at the moment - might or might not survive).

I've worked in several countries where teachers banded together formed a company with great ideas - but none survived - they didn't really know how tough the business world really is.
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 1:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But Justin, you say that you work for a no profit org. So from that $10, 6 goes to the teacher and the rest in re-investment and fixed costs.


One of those fixed costs is a reasonably salary for administrative work. (Including mine.) Maybe part of what's wrong is the profit model applied to education? Why should someone, simply for owning, receive a whopping 20% of the gross? This is sustainable? This is what makes so many language schools such a throwback to feudal times to work for. If they (the owners) do work, let them get a reasonable salary for it. I am NOT in favour of salarying the useless. (Paying money for no work is inherently unsustainable, as it means someone is receiving money earned on someone else's work. And therefore, somebody gets underpaid.)

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Don't forget the ongoing costs of keeping a school licensed, the cost of visas and work permits for employees (some employers DO pay them!), the cost of contributory social services taxes, health insurance - and other costs we may not be aware of. In Thailand, for example, there is even a sign tax - for the sign out in front of your business. Have you considered thoses costs?


I have, in fact. And considering them hasn't made me happier. I wish I could forget...

(HEre in Ecuador, we don't use the term "tea-money." "Bribe" is so much more to the point...)


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What about the need to build a fund for the future when economic downturns mean that people cut back on language school classes for their children? When the school has to really tough it out to survive?



That's exactly what dolarization did to us- thank god for smart accountants, intelligent investing, and the equity in the building. Or we'd have never made it.

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Oh and NGO's dont pay tax do they?


Depends on the tax. And on the local laws. On a lot of stuff, in fact. But your point is well taken. There are some things that help us out- and allow us to therefore exploit a bit less. And maybe in my argument, I'm betraying my own prejudice, which is that for-profit business and education make an uneasy marriage, at best. Because the interests of the two often conflict.

But I'll stand by my thesis- reducing margins in such a way that allows you to increase volume significantly is smart business, in any business.

And, in education, if this means investing more in teachers, so you really get the best out of the best people, it's probably well spent.



Happy weekend everybody,
Justin
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madison01



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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Justin Trullinger wrote:
But try this- what if you intentionally reduce the margin, by trying to keep staff wages as high as the market will allow, and by pressing to keep end costs/client costs as low as possible? What might happen? When you're offering the best services (by paying for happy staff and good resources) and charging less than other schools who actually pay less to their staff than you do?


Okay, I think someone has pointed this out, however, A profit driven business needs to do two things.

1. Make enough profit for the investor to make a decent return.
2. Make enough profit over that to pay for future development or problems, generally make sure that should the excrement hit the fan there's money in the pot to fall back on.

Intentionally reducing the margin is impossible, banks won't lend you the money to start up if you walk in with a model like that, and should you not be protecting the business for future problems you're going to have serious issues should you nned to update something e.g. computers.

The bottom line needs to be protected.

Now, the model I explained is pretty much standard across the world. there are differences in the UK, US and Australia as the majority of students come from abroad and stay for short periods, note I said majority there, whereas a school in Japan or Korea or Poland would have long term students who live in the country. Here agents' commisions don't exist so it's not part of the initial course price factor.

I'm disagreeing that teachers should be paid more, but I'm trying to point out that whilst EFL is, essentially, a profit driven business (in the main) teachers will be underpaid. The course is the commodity. The teacher is viewed as a tool to help make the commodity, an important tool, yes, but still a tool.

I want to make this clear, I am merely expressing what I know, not my opinion on whether it is right or wrong; Having worked in EFL management for 7 years at 3 schools before leaving EFL, having to draw up and manage budgets for school owners I saw first hand the driving factor of school owners, and the 'bottom line' is it. They want a house, they want holidays, they want a nice car and to send their kids to good schools, the business they have invested in is their way of providing this. Unfortunately, paying the teacher more means they stay in a 3 star hotel not a 5 star, they drive a ford not a BMW, they have a 3 bedroom house not a 4 bedroom with off road parking, that's not why they're in business.

You may believe that paying teachers better money means more returning students, happier students and a better reputation so more business in the future. It doesn't work that way. For those of you teaching abraod here's an experiment. Take a look at your classes and ask yourself how many of these students have studied at this school for longer than a year, longer than 2 years, longer than 3 years on so on. Get your colleagues to do it with theirs. Overall, in the schools where there is a lot of competition the number of constantly returning students will be low.

That means, if you replaced 60% of your teaching staff yearly the majority of the students wouldn't even know it.

Sorry to go on about this, but teachers really need to understand their employers motivation for opening a school before they will understand why they get paid less than they should. They also need to understand that while EFL remains a field where large amounts of money are to be made, teachers will always be underpaid. Again let me reiterate, I'm talking a bout privately owned, profit driven businesses. Not universities or non-profit schools, I'm fully aware that there are some schools that pay a decent wage to teachers and that it is possible to run a schooleffectively and pay your staff well, however, I would ask you to look at the motivation on the owners.
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's an interesting discussion - and while I must admit I'm not following the econ arguments in detail, I think there are many reasonable explanations for wages remaining low (and the OP's points are probably some of them).

In my experience (as well as just according to common sense) it fits that there is kind of a natural time limit to how long language learners, esp in a class, will stick around. They generally aren't long term customers the way bank or, say, coffee customers are. But I'd disagree with this:
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Overall, in the schools where there is a lot of competition the number of constantly returning students will be low.

That means, if you replaced 60% of your teaching staff yearly the majority of the students wouldn't even know it.


The students might not be able to say "I had this teacher last year too" but I think they would be able to tell that the teacher has additional experience, knows how to fit what needs to be covered into the class, is familiar with mistakes that speakers of their language tend to make, and has some sense of what will appeal to them as far as conversation topics/activities/etc (and be more satisfied with their class)...because these are things teachers gain with experience. Sure, it's possible to be good at it without staying at the same school a second year, but it sure helps.

I understand that the OP is not saying it's fine to not pay teachers well and is just explaining how it works - and i might go so far as to say that - even with my point here - it still might not end up being profitable for a school to keep teachers longer by paying them more...but I do think there will be a difference in the quality of instruction of that of a new teacher and that of one who has a few years of experience, esp in the same place.
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just want to thank madison01 for having posted this information about how language institutes operate financially. Too many teachers are altogether ignorant of these things usually.
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 8:21 pm    Post subject: Global Teacher Union Reply with quote

John Hall wrote:
I just want to thank madison01 for having posted this information about how language institutes operate financially. Too many teachers are altogether ignorant of these things usually.


Start a Global teachers Union!!! Haha
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 8:42 pm    Post subject: Re: A question of econmomics Reply with quote

madison01 wrote:
I am talking about private language schools here

This all points out that if you want to enjoy a long term career in EFL, you have to get out of the McDonald's style franchises and get into a better class of school - there's nothing new there.
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Justin Trullinger wrote:
Maybe part of what's wrong is the profit model applied to education? Why should someone, simply for owning, receive a whopping 20% of the gross? This is sustainable? This is what makes so many language schools such a throwback to feudal times to work for. If they (the owners) do work, let them get a reasonable salary for it. I am NOT in favour of salarying the useless. (Paying money for no work is inherently unsustainable, as it means someone is receiving money earned on someone else's work. And therefore, somebody gets underpaid.)

When someone starts throwing around terms like "profit model", "sustainable/unsustainable" and "feudal times" together, I tend to think that someone took his Marxist Studies class a bit too seriously.

madison01 wrote:
Sorry to go on about this, but teachers really need to understand their employers motivation for opening a school before they will understand why they get paid less than they should. They also need to understand that while EFL remains a field where large amounts of money are to be made, teachers will always be underpaid.

Although I'd quibble with "get paid less than they should" part (I think everyone gets exactly what they're worth by agreeing to work for those wages), the fact that so many EFL teachers don't understand the basic economics behind this (or don't seem to care) is why they're in EFL in the first place.


(edited to add parentheticals)


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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd tend to think that the real problem with this business model (if indeed you see a problem) is in the kind of service it provides. The "product" offered is extremely nebulous and success is difficult to define (I'm thinking of language mills like EF which provide their own "certificates"; schools aiming for international standards might be a bit different). Since the product is so difficult for the customer to discern, they will tend to fall back on cruder measures of quality - in Asia this can be as crude as a white face, blond hair and a "fun experience". That's why to me it makes perfect sense to go with low qualified and low paid teaching staff. It makes no sense to go for high quality teaching staff who will require serious rates of pay.

I realize this is a partial viewpoint but just thought I'd throw it in there Smile
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