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Options For Staying In Japan

 
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nabichan



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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 10:41 pm    Post subject: Options For Staying In Japan Reply with quote

Alright, I've been asking around and going through search engines and whatnot, and I haven't been able to find an answer yet, so I've finally made it here to ask a series of questions that really need to be answered.

I want to move to Japan to live with my boyfriend for a year (he is currently in the Interac program...I know you all hate it, but we didn't find out anything negative about it until -after- he left). I currently do not have a degree, so me trying to get a job at the same place is kind of out of the question.

So tell me, is there any way that I could possibly stay? I've been looking up all sorts of different visas at this site, but they seem to be a little vague with the requirements (or I'm just not reading right). So far, the only option that seems to be available is Spousal Visa...but getting married is our last option (mostly because we don't want to disappoint our families).

Now, people have been telling me all sorts of rumors, and maybe you could confirm if they're true, or if they're just full of crap. The first "rumor" is that it would be easier for me to try and get a job if I'm already in Japan (and I don't need a degree for some of these jobs). I was told that they'd sponsor a Work Visa for me after hiring me, and I'd be set. This is honestly not that big a deal since I plan to visit Japan anyway. What kinda bothered me about this whole thing is that I also read somewhere that you do need a degree to obtain a Work Visa, no exceptions.

Another rumor that I've been hearing is that after my Visitor's Visa expires after 90 days (actually, the consulate here told me that I don't even need that...I can just go, stay for 90 days, and come back), I can go to Korea or China for a day or two, and come right back (which would work out great for me since I have family in Korea and friends in China...and it would be much cheaper than coming back to the states). So pretty much, the plan would be to lather, rinse, and repeat every 90 days. As much as this plan would work out for me (I don't mind paying a couple hundred bucks for the trips), I don't know if it's really possible. A friend of mine told me that she could do it in China...but another friend told me that after visiting Lebanon and Pakistan...he wasn't allowed to come back for a year (I know Japan is a different place, but immigration laws are different everywhere).

Ideally, I would like to get a job, even if it is part-time (mostly because I don't want to depend on my boyfriend for everything, if I don't have to anyway). If anyone has any helpful advice to offer (outside of "stop, you're being a dumb kid"), I would appreciate it. Thank you for your time.[/url]
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nonsmoker



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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does he know you're coming, or are you going to surprise him?
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nabichan



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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nonsmoker wrote:
Does he know you're coming, or are you going to surprise him?


He knows I'm coming. He's been wanting me to come ever since he left. As sweet as it would be to give him a nice surprise like that, it wouldn't make any sense for me to do so (especially since I don't know a lick of Japanese).
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Quibby84



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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

get married and then get a spouse visa, you can work part time on that..but other than getting really lucky and someone sponsoring you without a degree you can not get a visa without getting married...
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Bugsy



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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But, to get a spouse visa, wouldn't your spouse have to be Japanese?
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nabichan



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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bugsy wrote:
But, to get a spouse visa, wouldn't your spouse have to be Japanese?


I was also curious about that...but one of the visas do mention something about be able to live as a dependent of someone who's already living in Japan (I'm not sure if it really counts for spouses as it would for something like children).
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Quibby84



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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 4:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, he doesnt have to be Japanese he just has to have a visa. When I was looking into JET they said that they would give the spouse a spouse visa. You dont have to have a degree, you just need to be married to someone that has a degree and a work visa. You can get special permission to work like 20 hours a week or something with that...
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you read that site, you'd know that a spouse visa is for foreigners married to Japanese. If your spouse is another foreigner, what you are looking for is a dependent visa. It doesn't permit work by itself, but you can easily get permission from the government to work (only part-time, and if you make more than 1 million yen/year, your spouse cannot exempt your income from his taxes).
http://www.immi-moj.go.jp/english/tetuduki/index.html

You're American, I take it. With no degree, your options are limited (as I've written many times before) to the following:

1) dependent visa
2) student visa (if you enroll in a school that sponsors a visa); same conditions apply to work as #1, but I think you have to wait a month or 2
3) cultural visa (if you get a craftsman to sponsor you to study under him, something like ikebana, pottery, martial arts, etc.; same work situation as #1)

That's it. Oh, there is one more option. If you have enough experience, you can bypass the requirement for a degree in order to get the work visa. How much experience? Depends on the type of work visa, whether for engineer, teacher, entertainer, etc. So, what you read about "no exceptions" is incorrect. And, most non-teaching opportunities require 5-10 years of experience and a high fluency in Japanese.

That's it.

Whether it is easier to find work in Japan or from the USA may depend on the job itself. You speak no Japanese and have no degree. If you qualify for a work visa by virtue of experience, then you MIGHT find someone from abroad, but your competition will mostly have degrees, so that experience will have to be pretty darned good. Teaching is your best, easiest option, as far as I can see, but how about telling us about your work experience so we can make a better assessment?

Oh, and be sure that Interac permits you to live with your boyfriend/spouse.

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Another rumor that I've been hearing is that after my Visitor's Visa expires after 90 days (actually, the consulate here told me that I don't even need that...I can just go, stay for 90 days, and come back), I can go to Korea or China for a day or two, and come right back
It's not a rumor. Americans can come on a passport and stay for only 90 days. Overstaying brings about severe penalties sometimes. Renewing that tourist status (not visa) can be as easy as leaving the country for 24 hours and returning, but immigration will scrutinize your reentry case by case and probably wonder why you are back. You will probably have to prove you can support yourself during that time and that you have a valid reason to stay. Valid in their minds, not yours. It would not be surprising to be turned down, as things are tightening up here on the borders, and immigration is watching things carefully so that people don't come and work illegally and do these renewal runs just to stay in the country.

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I would like to get a job, even if it is part-time
Employers cannot sponsor a work visa for PT work, so if you are dead set on working only those number of hours, you are going to have to look into options 1 or 2 or 3 above.
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