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suite1718 · Joined: 07 Mar 2007 Posts: 24

I saw this on the front page of msn.com and was suprised to see Miss USA being booed loudly. I'm really not interested in Miss USA, but it got me thinking, "Do people in Mexico really feel this way?"

The comments made by the host were idiotic (not surprising by what the source was), but I still wonder just what Mexicans think of Americans.

What do people in Mexico feel is the overall view of America?

LINK: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18924788/

Tarheel 13 · Joined: 02 May 2007 Posts: 44 Location: Outer Banks, NC

What do people in Mexico think of the USA?

Let's think awhile...hmmm.
1. USA is a good place to go to feed, clothe and house a family when ends can't be met in Mexico.
2. USA wants our cheap labor and hard workers, and the employers don't really care if we're illegal or legal, but for some reason USA makes it extremely difficult to stay in the USA.
3. USA wants to make it easier to go to the USA. Oh, goody, goody. What? They want me to stay two years, give up my job, come home for a year, and go back for another two years...and they want me to pay a fine of $5,000 before they consider me for a longer stay to feed my families both in the USA and Mexico!

I guess the USA doesn't really want me...they just want my cheap labor...
Is it little wonder that Miss USA was booed. Go figure.

PlayadelSoul · Joined: 29 Jun 2005 Posts: 346 Location: Playa del Carmen

Its easier to boo Miss USA than it is to boo your own. With a little planning and the offer of incentives, a lot of those jobs could be moved to Mexico and you wouldn't have to worry about crossing the border. Higher paid jobs could be had if more emphasis were put on workers learning English rather than on avoiding sunstroke and rattlesnakes while crossing the desert.

Instead of booing Miss USA because some are denied access to the American dream, why not create a Mexican dream. I guess its always easier to blame others and, even easier, to pick on a girl. Shocked

lisa1968 · Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 52

I'm a maid, I'm an albanil, I make tamales for a living and sell them door to door, I sell chicles, I shine shoes, I'm sometimes able to make minimum wage here in Chiapas (75 pesos a day). Wow, English will really open up some doors for me!! Especially since my reading and writing skills are so great!! What part of Mexico are you living in, Playa!?

Gary Denness · Guest

I thought it was a pretty mean thing to do. The girl wasn't George Bush, a wall along a border or responsible for Wal Marts being built next to Teotihuacan.

salsera_africana · Joined: 30 Aug 2006 Posts: 11 Location: minneapolis, mn

I agree that it was NOT right to boo Ms. Smith, in fact, many people will probably share that same sentiment. However, the issue much deeper than booing a girl who mistakingly fell on the runway. Obviously, Ms. Smith represents the U.S. (the good, the bad and the ugly) and so people wanted to express their feelings towards the U.S. (Especially in light of the fact that Miss MX didn't make the top 5 and she did).

Playa, actually jobs are being moved FROM MX to places like China and India due to cheaper labor. In this day and age, it's hard to compete with those countries. And just knowing English and living in an extremely limited job market doesn't catapult you to the upper-class status. You need education, skills and and most of all connections to basically get a decent job in much of the developing world.

Also, it's not like many Mexicans are craving to leave their families, language and life for an unknown existance and stuggle in the U.S. They are provoked to leave MX in order to survive especially after they have tried their hand at the job markets in the big Mexican cities like DF and Juarez and Monterrey to name a few. I'm not condoning illegal immigration, but when your back is against the wall, what do you do??

I did a research paper last year that the U.S. "dumps" genetically modified corn to an already saturated corn country: Mexico! These GM corn are sold at embarrassingly low prices and many corn farmers cannot compete with the price of this corn. So, many corn farmers have to find something else to do to sustain their families, including immigrating to big MX cities or the U.S. There is a lot of unjustice happening and people are expressing their feelings.

El Gallo · Joined: 05 Feb 2007 Posts: 318

What did the host say as a reply? I heard "OK" then TNT did its Spanish translation and I didn't hear the rest.

I think this was racist. Mexicans like to call gringos racist but they are hypocrites. I was surprised because, unlike some Americans, most Mexicans are polite enough to keep their racism to themselves. I wonder what the governors of the Mexican states where the pageant visited thought as they sat next to Donald Trump. I think it will be a long time before there will be another Miss Universe Pageant in Mexico. It is obvious from their booing that Mexico is not ready for this type of world event. This wasn't a soccer match where one side yells "putos" when the other team players are introduced - que corriente

Maybe the gringo teachers will need to leave Mexico in the next ten years if this hatred continues to accelerate. Or maybe it will subside when the US is eventually freed from the extremely ugly American image represented by George Bush.

ls650 · Joined: 10 May 2003 Posts: 3484 Location: British Columbia

My understanding is that a small portion (not all) of the Mexican audience booed because they felt it was unfair judging. Miss Mexico didn't place in the top five finalists, yet Miss USA did after taking a fall on her backside.

Could there have been bias in the judging of the American panelists? The Mexicans who booed seemed to think so.

Samantha · Joined: 25 Oct 2003 Posts: 2038 Location: Mexican Riviera

EL gallo wrote:

PlayadelSoul · Joined: 29 Jun 2005 Posts: 346 Location: Playa del Carmen

El Gallo · Joined: 05 Feb 2007 Posts: 318

I agree that Miss Mexico should have been in the top five instead of Miss USA and they may have been some bias amongst the judges. However, this booing wasn't isolated. During the competition, the audiences booed and shouted Mexico! Mexico! during Miss USA's turns to participate. During the 2005 World Cup, Mexicans booed the US team, the US National Anthem and chanted "Osama!, Osama!, Osama!"

ls650 · Joined: 10 May 2003 Posts: 3484 Location: British Columbia

... and I'm sure if I went searching on the internet, I could find just as many examples of Mexican sports teams being booed by Americans. I think if we're going to have some battle of "who's the biggest racist?" both sides will have a lot to be ashamed of.

suite1718 · Joined: 07 Mar 2007 Posts: 24

No Moss · Joined: 15 Apr 2003 Posts: 1995 Location: Thailand

No Moss · Joined: 15 Apr 2003 Posts: 1995 Location: Thailand

BTW, here's the count of judges with Latin-American connections:

Nina Garcia, Colombia
Mauricio Isles, Mexico
Dave Navarro, USA, Mexican & American heritage
Tony Romo, USA, Mexican heritage (Dallas Cowboys Quarterback)
Dayanarra Torres, Puerto Rico
Justine Pacek, Ukraine, Miss Panama 2002

That's six out of 15, folks. There were no judges of Japanese heritage, by the way.