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nonsmoker
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| lagerlout2006 wrote: |
Sickening white trash...
I guess this is supposed to be "daring" or "cutting edge" and prudish to say otherwise.
IMO he should be denied a passport,, |
And then what, whipped and sent to the gallows?
And what color trash are you? |
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Eva Pilot
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| Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 5:33 am Post subject: |
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I don't find that one bit funny at all.
But perhaps I'm not one to be qualified to judge humour, I'm a huge fan of Masaki Sumitani (Razor Ramon HG).  |
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Nismo
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| Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 5:54 am Post subject: |
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| Eva Pilot wrote: |
I don't find that one bit funny at all.
But perhaps I'm not one to be qualified to judge humour, I'm a huge fan of Masaki Sumitani (Razor Ramon HG). |
He's great. He's not quite Ali G, but he's as close as you can get in Japan. I really want to see him make a new character, though, and make his social experiments slightly lower key, but I don't know if it would go over the same with a Japanese audience. |
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wolfman
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| Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 6:51 am Post subject: |
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| Nismo wrote: |
| Eva Pilot wrote: |
I don't find that one bit funny at all.
But perhaps I'm not one to be qualified to judge humour, I'm a huge fan of Masaki Sumitani (Razor Ramon HG). |
He's great. He's not quite Ali G, but he's as close as you can get in Japan. I really want to see him make a new character, though, and make his social experiments slightly lower key, but I don't know if it would go over the same with a Japanese audience. |
"Social experiments"?
How unbelievably pretentious. |
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Nismo
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| Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:00 am Post subject: |
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| wolfman wrote: |
"Social experiments"?
How unbelievably pretentious. |
HG's humor is in the reactions of the people around him. If he's on stage with no one "normal", there is nothing funny about it. It's, also, all improv.
Improvisational humor applied on people. Social experiments. It's not pretentious at all.
He's not subtle, though, which detracts from the overall humor of it.
Tom Green, on the other hand, tries to pull laughter from the audience at the expense of the dignity of others. He's not the victim, and so it's just mean spirited. |
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furiousmilksheikali
Joined: 31 Jul 2006
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Location: In a coffee shop, splitting a 30,000 yen tab with Sekiguchi.
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| Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:32 am Post subject: |
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| Nismo wrote: |
Improvisational humor applied on people. Social experiments. It's not pretentious at all.
He's not subtle, though, which detracts from the overall humor of it.
Tom Green, on the other hand, tries to pull laughter from the audience at the expense of the dignity of others. He's not the victim, and so it's just mean spirited. |
Sacha Baron Cohen's other character Bruno pulled off one really good stunt here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cqi-CQhXH3U&mode=related&search= |
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Odango
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| Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 10:21 am Post subject: |
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| I found it cringeworthy. |
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gaijinalways
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| Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 10:55 am Post subject: |
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| Humor and art are things that you have to decide what you like and avoid that which you don't. Sometimes by exposure and understanding you may come to appreciate some things, but it really is a cultural experience to learn to love some kinds of humor. |
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User N. Ame
Joined: 11 Dec 2006
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Location: Kanto
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| Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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While not quite as funny, this one produces more nervous - this guy has balls of steel - laughter as "Bruno" spends the evening at a neo-Nazi punk rock club... (for those who don't know Bruno, he's a gay fashion guru):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wU8nhHYlQ-I&mode=related&search=
And just some passing observations on the comments so far, I believe Lenny Bruce, in his day, made many enlightened people cringe (enough to get him thrown in prison because of uttering naughty words), as did Richard Pryor, Andy Kaufman and all sorts of other controversial comedians who push the limits... not suggesting Green is a cutting edge comic genius, but he comes from a long tradition of "cringeworthy" humour. Sacha Cohen, whom I love to pieces, seems to be doing exactly what Green was doing 10 years ago. But he does a much MUCH better, refined, funny job of it.
And what happens when you cut Tom Green loose onto a kids soccer pitch in Canada...? 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4D4V9dkoxc
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wolfman
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 7:58 am Post subject: |
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| Nismo wrote: |
| wolfman wrote: |
"Social experiments"?
How unbelievably pretentious. |
HG's humor is in the reactions of the people around him. If he's on stage with no one "normal", there is nothing funny about it. It's, also, all improv.
Improvisational humor applied on people. Social experiments. It's not pretentious at all.
He's not subtle, though, which detracts from the overall humor of it.
Tom Green, on the other hand, tries to pull laughter from the audience at the expense of the dignity of others. He's not the victim, and so it's just mean spirited. |
Hey partner, I have no problem if you have to find pretentious ways to justify having a laugh at low brow humor.
Personally, I prefer to just not be a jerk off and enjoy it. |
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Nismo
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 9:24 am Post subject: |
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| wolfman wrote: |
Hey partner, I have no problem if you have to find pretentious ways to justify having a laugh at low brow humor.
Personally, I prefer to just not be a jerk off and enjoy it. |
Or, it could just be that we laugh at the same bit for different reasons.  |
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Henry_Cowell
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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| User N. Ame wrote: |
| ... his pranks in Japan are hilarious. |
Henceforth, could you preface such statements with "I think" or "In my opinion"?
That seems to be the consensus here. |
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User N. Ame
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Henry_Cowell wrote: |
| User N. Ame wrote: |
| ... his pranks in Japan are hilarious. |
Henceforth, could you preface such statements with "I think" or "In my opinion"?
That seems to be the consensus here. |
I think that in my fumblest of opinions that Henry_Cowell is somewhat funny, and interesting because of his seminal explorations of atonality, polytonality, polyrhythms, and non-Western modes. And he comes from pretty cool bohemian writer stock. Without Henry, we have a very boring Bela, and John Cage's piano wouldn't have ended up very prepared. Arnold Schoenberg had a very twisted sense of hyumor. One day, when my (long since deceased) neighbour Glenn Gould and I were talking about tone row at the lake over ice tea, the subject of Henry_Cowell's infamous prank on Carl Ruggles came up, and.....
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furiousmilksheikali
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Has that prank been posted on YouTube? |
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Henry_Cowell
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| Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:54 am Post subject: |
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| No, it isn't on YouTube. I have the only copy and I'm not broadcasting it!! |
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