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vikuk · Joined: 23 May 2007 Posts: 1842

some posters tells us to research - and then when we ask questions - others tells us to be quite!!!
All I want is to find out about Shane's - from the proverbial horses mouth - do you think I should PM Tom Laughing

clark.w.griswald · Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 2056

Tom has not come here singing the praises of the school nor advertising it as a great place to work. If he had then I would agree that he should support his claims with some evidence to back that up. Just the same that those who claim that it is a terrible place to work should back their claims up with some evidence of that!

Quite clearly his involvement was to answer the OP's question which is what he has done. Additionally he was asked why he felt it was a good school to work at and he answered this. He is under no obligation to answer all aspects of employment with the school that he works for.

If you are researching the prospect of working at Shane then by all means contact him by PM or even better contact the school directly. But to continue to badger someone just because he had the hide to say something positive about the school that he works for is really just very sad!

vikuk · Joined: 23 May 2007 Posts: 1842

Tom's very first post on Dave's (in another thread) started thus -

clark.w.griswald · Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 2056

tw · Joined: 04 Jun 2005 Posts: 3898

There are a couple members here who seem to be obsessed with attacking people who have anything that is NOT bad to say about language mills. It just doesn't matter how nice you try to reason with them. In the end, they see it as their personal crusade to pursuade people that NO languages mills are nice places to work at. They will go out of their way to twist and bend what people say just to win by making sure the other parties get so frustrated they simply stop responding. In another thread, the OP asked about the possible consequences of breaking a contract, one member jumps in quickly and tell people what kind of cheats and crooks that local branch of Aston is. The OP has even said that the employer is not that bad, and has quite clearly indicated that it is the obvious feeling of loneliness and boredom that has made him want to quit.

Tom.Ferguson seems to be quite open and frank so far, so what's with the relentless attacks?

vikuk · Joined: 23 May 2007 Posts: 1842

Tom's not an ordinary DOS - he's the chief DOS who works in Shane head office at Shanghai - and has special responsibilities regarding recruiting. I know this because he wrote in another thread -

clark.w.griswald · Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 2056

vikuk · Joined: 23 May 2007 Posts: 1842

Ohhhh deary me Laughing

peepertice · Joined: 23 Nov 2005 Posts: 63

speaking directly to teachers currently working in ANY school when considering a job there is excellent advice & i assume the OP is currently trying to find a way to do this rather than responding to the cr*p being spouted on this thread by one person in particular (mentioning no names)

vikuk · Joined: 23 May 2007 Posts: 1842

Yes please don't rock the boat - we need to protect these 5 dollar/hour employment opportunities Laughing

Sinko · Joined: 21 Apr 2005 Posts: 349

u24tc · Joined: 14 May 2007 Posts: 125 Location: Dalian, China

Let's face facts, Shane's English School does not have a good reputation.
There is no point denying it.

Yes like most schools, there will be good and bad points but Shane keeps coming up time and time again during my research for schools.

If we are talking about schools in Japan, I even put Nova as being better than Shanes and I think Nova are quite bad as well.

If for example you want to teach in Japan I rate these companies in order of preference: Jet, Aeon, Geos, ECC, Interac, Nova, Shane.

Say no to Shane, you won't regret it Wink

vikuk · Joined: 23 May 2007 Posts: 1842

englishgibson · Joined: 09 Mar 2005 Posts: 4345

i get into one franchised circus discussions on, but some seem to be infatuated with much more Laughing

for the sake of the ones interested in this franchised operation in china, vikuk (vikdk or something like that as well, isn't it?) and clarkie, would you be kind enough to provide your lovely interest in??? Smile

now, shane's got rather substandard employment contracts in its centers around china ... some owners do it their way ... sounds familiar? Laughing

peace to all interested in the great franchised businesses in china
and
cheers and beers to all hard working FTs aroudn china Very Happy

vikuk · Joined: 23 May 2007 Posts: 1842

EG is back - and he's dead right I know nothing about this chain. So I'm taking Tom's lead - anyone wanting to carry on an open discussion can PM me - that's me gone!!!!!