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[Oomlout]

OK this is my first foray into these forums (and into China for that matter).

It is also the beginning of my research. Any suggsestions at this stage are welcome. Any criticisms-at this stage-are not!

I have around four years teaching experience in various capacities although only one in a strictly TEFL context. I have a CELTA and a Master's in a Social Sciences subject.

I expect a Uni. job might be within my grasp and might be the best as far as money and relative prestige is concerned.

If not-please tell me about alternatives!


Where would you personally recommend as a good Uni with a good rep?
This would be for English Language Teaching-(but in fact if there was any chance of teaching English Lit. in Uni in English that would be even better!)

At this stage I haven't even considered location so the Uni could be anywhere in China.

Could you give me an example of how much I could save in a year with the job- earnings Vs. a breakdown of costs.


Hope I haven't asked too much in the one post!
Cheers,
Oom

[hairuo]

I am afraid you will find except in a few places, your Master's won't bring you lots of money. I would suggest looking around big cities.

[kev7161]

I don't think you've asked too much, it's just that you've asked the same questions as dozens of others have in the past. You could probably read posts from the the most recent 3 or 4 pages and you'll find a lot of answers to your questions. Welcome to Dave's, but please do a little research here and then come back with more specific questions.

[william wallace]

Good-golly Miss Molly ! I really have been here far too long. For many years nobody would go near a university teaching job in China,but I guess it's really changed, though the salaries are still pretty low,eh ?

[foreignDevil]

"Looking for Money, Prestige, Power"














I am, too.





foreigndevil

[jwbhomer]

Money, prestige and power?! Teaching university in China??!! C'mon...this is a joke, right? Really...who ARE you?!

[eslstudies]

In Chinese universities, pay is generally inversely proportional to the status of the institution. You'd probably need a masters to work at, for eg, Fudan or Jiaoda in Shanghai, and you could use that posting to attract well paid side work, as these places are prestigious in China. However, your base salary would be ordinary.
Many here settle for a location they like, at a salary that supports a comfortable lifestyle, with plenty of time to do other things-including earning more money, if desired.

[u24tc]

Your looking in the wrong country.
Don't expect all that if you want to come teach in China. It's a fact unfortunately.

Come to China if you want to experience the culture, etc and pay is pretty much standard.

In addition, University jobs are in great demand by many others and competition is tough. It is not wise to simply think you will automatically get a University job on the spot.

Easier jobs are private organisations, business schools or teaching little kids.

[eslstudies]

[james s]

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[naturegirl321]

From what I've seen and what my friends have told me. CHinese unis pay around 3500-5000 but you only teach about 16 hours a week. So you can get another job on the side to help you out.

It's one thing for the other, pay or time. RIght now with teaching 40 hours, I'd rather have time.

[brsmith15]

You might cast around for the Eng Lit teaching position. The big, prestigious places like Tsinghua, Peking, Fudan, Jiao Tong probably offer that course for their English majors. It'd pay a lot better than ESL (maybe around 15,000 RMB/mo), but you'll run up against competition.

I assume by "Eng" you mean both UK and US stuff. Don't limit yourself. Tell them you're qualified to teach either/both.

[Shan-Shan]

I suspect that the OP is having us all on. Power, prestige and money via employment at a Chinese university? Unless the degree is a fake, and the teaching experience wild fantasy, attempting to drag this average dream into reality might be better done in Korea, Japan, North America, or Europe.

"Uni job within my grasp"

There are 21 year olds with four week TESL certificates working at universities in China. It's within anyone's grasp.

[vikuk]

The OP is a clever chappy - he's done it again (under yet another identity) � he�s got half the forum to slag off another aspect of Chinese education with his send-up post. But what the hell - the message that comes across in this thread is so true � with FT's who are experienced in the Chinese uni EFL machine telling us what a load of crap it is

I suppose the next step is � trying to find something to do about it!!!!

Of course the response to this next step will be less energetic - far more fun to slag off our jobs than going through that hard work of demanding better conditions

[u24tc]