| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
monkeybalz
Joined: 20 Jun 2007
Posts: 3
|
 Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 5:18 am Post subject: Teaching in Turkey with a B.Ed |
 |
|
Hello and thank you in advance for any information I can get.
My family and I are planning to end up in Turkey next year and I have been scouring this forum looking for advice.
I have found a lot of information regarding options with a TEFL or CELTA cert., but nothing regarding an Education degree holder without any extra certification.
I have an Ed. degree in English and science, and 6 years experience overseas, at both language institutes and at a university for the last 4 years.
Whether I work at an International school or not is not important, but the knowledge of having some decent prospects is.
Can somebody please give me an idea of what to expect.
Thanks again,
Monkey |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
mthood
Joined: 03 Aug 2006
Posts: 73
|
| Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 7:56 am Post subject: |
|
|
| hey monkeybalz, you should have your pick of private colleges and universities. i would highly recommend you do neither to save your sanity but if you have a family, you probably want to pay the bills. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
mongrelcat
Joined: 12 Mar 2004
Posts: 232
|
| Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 11:12 am Post subject: Re: Teaching in Turkey with a B.Ed |
|
|
| monkeybalz wrote: |
| My family and I are planning to end up in Turkey Monkey |
I just can't think of anything that would be a suitable remark to that. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
monkeybalz
Joined: 20 Jun 2007
Posts: 3
|
| Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 12:10 pm Post subject: |
|
|
The "monkeybalz" thing could not be explained on a classy public forum such as this.
mthood......I have seen the discussions about uni and language schools, and am a bit confused. Are universities NOT considered a good gig in Turkey? Are we talking about the private kind where private language institutes affiliate themselves with a uni, and then load them up with children?
To be honest, I do well where we are, but I need a change and money is not incredibly important, but liking where we live is......is it crazy to consider turkey? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
ghost
Joined: 30 Jan 2003
Posts: 1693
Location: Saudi Arabia
|
| Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 12:19 pm Post subject: answer |
|
|
| monkeybalz wrote: |
The "monkeybalz" thing could not be explained on a classy public forum such as this.
mthood......I have seen the discussions about uni and language schools, and am a bit confused. Are universities NOT considered a good gig in Turkey? Are we talking about the private kind where private language institutes affiliate themselves with a uni, and then load them up with children?
To be honest, I do well where we are, but I need a change and money is not incredibly important, but liking where we live is......is it crazy to consider turkey? |
Turkey is a crap shoot - it can be heaven or hell depending where you end up.
With a B.Ed. (which ghost also possesses) you would get first pick at all the Kolejiler (Private schools) k-12 in Turkey - but be forewarned that a sizeable proportion of the students in those places tend to be spoilt and lacking in respect for foreign teachers.
If you do select a school you should insist on teaching advanced academic classes. Forget the regular monkey classes - you will be wasting your education and shortening your life span (because of stress) if you teach regular classes.
Ghost has taught in many countries, and concludes that the students in Private establishments in Turkey tend to be among the worst behaved on the globe. This may seem paradoxical to someone who has visited Turkey as a tourist, because as a tourist foreigners are usually (almost always) given the 'red carpet treatment' and the foreigners end up thinking that all Turks are wonderful/generous/kind etc.....until they (the foreigners) start working in some of the Private schools.
Be very careful where you go, and make sure (as much as possible) that you are teaching academic classes - be sure about that. Don't waste your education and knowledge.
Ghost in Korea |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
MEDRACER
Joined: 28 May 2007
Posts: 57
|
| Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:10 pm Post subject: YOU WONT BE LEGAL |
|
|
Teaching at Private Language Schools in Turkey
This is a set of guidelines on the terms and conditions that usually apply to Turkish private language schools. After receiving a job offer, however, our applicants always receive a full contract detailing the terms and conditions of the particular school they are considering. Full contracts and their summaries can be viewed on our web pages, or sent to the applicant individually by post, fax or e-mail.
Qualifications: Minimum qualifications required (by the Turkish Ministry of Education) are a University Degree or a Diploma in any subject and a TEFL, TESOL or other teaching certificate. (Preferred age range 20-40 yrs).
The above was from the TURKENG site, a recruitment body. Sorry to tell you but it's absolutely right. If you get a job doing TEFL without the certs, you must be illegal. If that dont bother u... |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
mthood
Joined: 03 Aug 2006
Posts: 73
|
| Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 8:20 am Post subject: |
|
|
| monkeybalz wrote: |
The "monkeybalz" thing could not be explained on a classy public forum such as this.
mthood......I have seen the discussions about uni and language schools, and am a bit confused. Are universities NOT considered a good gig in Turkey? Are we talking about the private kind where private language institutes affiliate themselves with a uni, and then load them up with children?
To be honest, I do well where we are, but I need a change and money is not incredibly important, but liking where we live is......is it crazy to consider turkey? |
private universities and colleges are good gigs for the money but not a good gigs for making you feel good about yourself or occupation. a crapshoot? sure. but a little more like russian roulette. chances that you find heaven rather than hell are not good.
yeah you might be crazy to be considering turkey. it depends what you're looking for and what your other options are. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
angelacakir
Joined: 25 May 2007
Posts: 13
|
| Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 7:12 pm Post subject: Private schools |
|
|
Why is everybody so negative about Private schools!!!!
I know that there are some bads ones. I work in a private school in Adana and have been there for 10 years.
In my time I've seen so called educators! come to my school pass out at 9.30 in front of a class full of kids due to a heavy session the night before !
If you work in a private college you have to expect some of the kids to talk to much or at times misbehave! But has anyone worked in England recently!!!!!
I think that some private colleges don't pay enough and expect too much.
But don't tarnish every school with the same brush. I work for a college that treats me with respect and that is why I've been there for 10 years.
I came to Turkey with a b.ed. Private schools will snap you up!!!
Good Luck! |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
MEDRACER
Joined: 28 May 2007
Posts: 57
|
| Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 11:57 am Post subject: Re: Private schools |
|
|
| angelacakir wrote: |
Why is everybody so negative about Private schools!!!!
I know that there are some bads ones. I work in a private school in Adana and have been there for 10 years.
In my time I've seen so called educators! come to my school pass out at 9.30 in front of a class full of kids due to a heavy session the night before !
If you work in a private college you have to expect some of the kids to talk to much or at times misbehave! But has anyone worked in England recently!!!!!
I think that some private colleges don't pay enough and expect too much.
But don't tarnish every school with the same brush. I work for a college that treats me with respect and that is why I've been there for 10 years.
I came to Turkey with a b.ed. Private schools will snap you up!!!
Good Luck! |
Oh, hot diggity dog!!!!!! Lets hear it for good old private schools!!!! hip hip hooray!!!! hip hip hooray!!!! hip hip hooray!!!!
Last edited by MEDRACER on Sun Jun 24, 2007 7:15 pm; edited 1 time in total |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
angelacakir
Joined: 25 May 2007
Posts: 13
|
| Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 12:08 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Hey what works for one person may not work for someone else.
All I'm saying is that every private school is different and after working at some crap language school that gives you zero money for 30 hours a week I know where I am better off!  |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
monkeybalz
Joined: 20 Jun 2007
Posts: 3
|
| Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 12:28 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Thanks for all the info........Keep it comin' |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
samuraiwriter
Joined: 09 Jun 2007
Posts: 41
|
| Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 6:03 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Teaching now at a private school in Istanbul, BA.Ed as well, with the ESOL thing attached. Great city, pretty easy to live/move about. You will like it here.
Kids in primary have been good to me- but I hear in MS and HS they become more challenging. Money is not so great as this city is expensive. If you limit your travelling you should still be able to save.
Bring your patience with you.
Your "A-Game" so to speak.
I have suffered in that area.
SW |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
dagi
Joined: 01 Jan 2004
Posts: 425
|
| Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:36 am Post subject: |
|
|
With a B.A. in Ed. you are more qualified than most of the TEFL teachers that are around here. Wouldn't worry about finding a job, you have teaching experience and regardless what other people say you'll find a way to deal with the kids in the classroom.
The question is, wether you'll be able to support a family with you salary, even if you are well paid for Turkish standards. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
FAQ
Search
Memberlist
Usergroups
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
