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What's the going rate for editing gigs?
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PAzine



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 5:28 pm    Post subject: What's the going rate for editing gigs? Reply with quote

I've stumbled into a "name your price" sort of scenario, but I have no idea of market rates.

Does anyone know what is a decent rate for smoothing and polishing business document translations?
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Henry_Cowell



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just compiled, edited, and formatted a multinational company's annual technology report. I charged them US$80/hr. It was also a name-your-price situation, so I'm sure that US$100/hr wouldn't have been out of the question. I've never billed higher than US$90/hr for editing, but there are those who do.

In the U.S., you'll find places paying no more than $15/hr -- but what sort of editing will they get?? Wink
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PAzine



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Henry_Cowell wrote:
I just compiled, edited, and formatted a multinational company's annual technology report. I charged them US$80/hr. It was also a name-your-price situation, so I'm sure that US$100/hr wouldn't have been out of the question. I've never billed higher than US$90/hr for editing, but there are those who do.

In the U.S., you'll find places paying no more than $15/hr -- but what sort of editing will they get?? Wink

Thanks Henry. Your numbers are little out of my league, if that's what the going rate is.

I have an associate working as an editor at the China Daily, and he makes 13,000 RMB/month, plus an apartment. That's the yardstick I've been going by. I'm about at his level, in terms of qualifications and experience.

There's no way I could justify asking for $80/hr here. Or even $50.

The gig in question is shaping up to be a long term regular thing. With a few months of solid work and relationship building, I foresee a situation where I'm assured a steady income from any location with net access. I cooked a deal like that in Taiwan last year and it was sweet.

My home was my office, I had a lot of free time, I worked at my own schedule, etc.

I'm not looking to break the bank with my rates here.

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Given that additional context, what would be a good number to start with? One that doesn't rip myself off, while still being low enough to make the source feel happy and comfortable?
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Kurochan



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 3:12 pm    Post subject: What city are you in? Reply with quote

I was paid 150 an hour for editing in Shenzhen, but I've heard the usual rate is like 100 an hour in Shanghai, just because there are so many foreigners here that you can't ask for as much money.
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Henry_Cowell



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You didn't say what the job is or where it's located. If it's in China, if it's an important enough "business document" for a big company, and if your skills are superior to the local talent, you can still name your price. If it's just somebody's correspondence or otherwise simply one employee's writing, then you of course can't go too high.

Who is paying you? A company? An individual employee?
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Mister Al



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP

Charge by the page. Y5 to Y10, something like that. Will be easier for future negotiations.......there won't be any. Smile
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PAzine



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kurochan wrote:
I was paid 150 an hour for editing in Shenzhen, but I've heard the usual rate is like 100 an hour in Shanghai, just because there are so many foreigners here that you can't ask for as much money.


Cool. That gives a good idea of the landscape I figure I'll be dealing with.

Henry_Cowell wrote:
You didn't say what the job is or where it's located. If it's in China, if it's an important enough "business document" for a big company, and if your skills are superior to the local talent, you can still name your price. If it's just somebody's correspondence or otherwise simply one employee's writing, then you of course can't go too high.

Who is paying you? A company? An individual employee?


I'd rather not yet say the location, expect for the fact that it's a major city that is neither Shanghai or Beijing. It is a translation company that serves corporate clients.

According to the person I've been dealing with, their problem is not in finding a foreigner to do the work, but rather in finding someone able to deliver the quality of results that they need.

They seem to think that I'm their man, and I agree. In the last communique, I was asked to name my terms and conditions. Soo... I'd like to set this up right.

Mister Al wrote:
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Charge by the page. Y5 to Y10, something like that. Will be easier for future negotiations.......there won't be any. Smile


That sounds good.

Has anyone ever charged by page? What's a good number?

Thanks again for any and all ideas!
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william wallace



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In around 2001-02 I edited a series of books(10) and was paid 1000 USD per two books(about 200 pages total)
In 2005 I ghost wrote a manual on iBT TOEFL (40 pages) and was paid 4500 RMB. I also ghost wrote stuff on IELTS for about 400 RMB per hour.
Good luck
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Kurochan



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 3:45 pm    Post subject: No by page Reply with quote

I'd never want to be paid by page because sometimes you get a document that's so bad you spend like an hour and a half for just one. By the hour seems fairer both for you and the client -- if the document is good and easy for you to go through, they pay less, if it's lousy and it's hard work for you, you get more.
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Henry_Cowell



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hourly. Not by the page.

Have you shown them a sample of what you can do and how much better you are than your competition?
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Leon Purvis



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the U.S. freelance editors generally charge by the hour. Editing is not the same as proof reading, correcting grammar and spelling. As Henry knows, it often consists of suggested rewrites and changes in direction of the document in order for the document to achieve and/or maintain its focus.Also note that editing is NOT rewriting.

5Y-10Y per page isn't nearly enough to even cover proofreading and making grammatical corrections.

Depending upon the length of the work and how familiar you are with the subject matter, begin at 150Y and work from there (hopefully, upwards). In the states, the rate for editing a document that has commercial value usually starts at $50.00 per hour and increases depending upon the editor's reputation and the client's willingness to pay.
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Shan-Shan



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I also ghost wrote stuff on IELTS for about 400 RMB per hour.


So it was you who wrote this sentence in an IELTS textbook I'm willing to "fix" after negotiating a price with HQ:

"In summer, airconditioners groan, and insects emerge to nibble our private parts".

Quite the joker, Mr. Wallace!
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Yu



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got around 2000 RMB for editing a textbook series--3 books. I was paid for the job. I spent about 16 hours on the work. Not great pay. Spend a few lesiurely days at Starbucks doing the work.
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Henry_Cowell



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leon Purvis wrote:
Editing is not the same as proof reading, correcting grammar and spelling.

Not exactly. There are many types of editing. What you describe as "correcting grammar and spelling" is very light copyediting. It is not proofreading.
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jwbhomer



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last year, while I was still teaching at a university in Guangdong, I undertook to edit (correct grammar, spelling and vocabulary) some English exam papers for my colleagues. They wanted to pay me 2 (TWO) RMB per page and we finally settled on 5. As Kurochan says, some of the stuff is so bad that 5 or 10 RMB per page isn't nearly enough.

I agree with those who say that one should charge per hour, not per page. Now that I'm back in Canada I charge a minimum of C$75 per hour for "proper" editing, including fact and reference checking, a bit of rewriting and so on. The works out to about $30 per page, which is the Canadian Association of Editors going rate.

I don't imagine it would be easy to get 525 RMB per hour in China, but if you're going to work for a large and well-heeled company, it can't hurt to ask. And if you see the possibility of an ongoing relationship and steady work, you could always settle for less.
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