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Brazilian ex pats in Japan??
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furiousmilksheikali



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 1:52 am    Post subject: Re: Brazilian ex pats in Japan?? Reply with quote

japanman wrote:
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chingao327 wrote:

interesting fact - Sao Paolo has the largest Japanese population outside of Japan.


It may have the highest number of ethnic jpanese outside Japan but from my perspective, they are not Japanese, they are Brazilian.


The Japanese government has failed to take your beliefs into account and consider them partly Japanese and can hold dual nationality. The same goes for Fujimori and many others in Peru (re: your other thread).
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furiousmilksheikali



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Japanman, besides you refer to them as "ethnic Japanese" and yet you say they are not Japanese. This would seem to be a contradiction as you are saying "These Japanese are not Japanese." A logical fallacy, no?
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japanman



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 2:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ethnic Japanese or ethnic Indian etc are just a phrases that people throw around to make things clear but is something that I don't think actualy excists. I don't think there is such a thing as race in any natural biological context.
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kdynamic



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

japanman wrote:
I don't think there is such a thing as race in any natural biological context.

Who asked you?

The truth is that while Japanese-Brazilians might be Brazilian nationals, their Japanese heritage is one aspect of their culture and identity. Who are you to get on your high horse and say that concept is invalid? Give it a rest.
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TokyoLiz



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Japanman's a git sometimes.

I had a curious experience on the weekend. A Brazilian Japanese (or is that Japanese Brazilian?) friend asked me how to say hot and humid in Japanese, so I quickly told him the common term Mushi-atsui. I told him, Don't ask me these things! Ask our Japanese friends!

He says he likes learning from me in either English or broken Portugese. He says if he were to ask the Japanese guys, he'd get overwhelmed by too much information.

He's doing his best, reconnecting with his family and learning the culture. He really likes living in Japan, too.
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japanman



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All forms of identity such as race, nationality, gender, sexuality etc are merely social constructs. they only excist within the culture and not as a biological form. The only way the world can progress one step further than it's present pathetc state is if people realise such things and move beyond such limited ways of thinking as i'm this and i'm that. You just become a victim of your own pidgeon-hole.
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japanman



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, nationality is a bit different because that is a legal idea. It is merely that. Thinking that it should or does mean more is only limiting yourself.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="kdynamic]
Who asked you?

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Oh, i'm sorry for saying something in your little club. I will ask permission before I speak next time. Please accept my deepest apologies.
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japanman



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've decided that will be my last ever message on this forum. I've got bugger all to do at work but I should do something more constructive.
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Wasabi Bomb



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I live in Osaka and I mainly encounter Brazilians on the nightlife scene. I guess they come in from Shiga and Mie or wherever for their nights out.

Unfortunately probably 19 out of the 20 big fights I`ve seen have involved Brazilians. I won`t speculate as to why, but that`s the truth of it. 19/20.
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markle



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

japanman wrote:
I've decided that will be my last ever message on this forum. I've got bugger all to do at work but I should do something more constructive.


Yaaaahhhhhh! Twisted Evil
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johnyuehan



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 12:40 pm    Post subject: Brazilian supermarkets in Kansai? Reply with quote

...changing the topic a bit, does anyone know of Brazilian supermarkets / mini food stores in the Kansai area? Or online in Japan (I'm sure I'll find something eventually). fbcusa has nothing, & bento.com has little on Brazilian food. I've been to such stores in Hamamatsu & Tokyo, but that's too far just for the chocolates & other Brazilian foods I like. Thanks!
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sallycat



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm pretty sure there's one in kyoto. from memory, somewhere near shirakawa-dori...
sorry, that wasn't that useful, was it.
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