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midnightpariah



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:51 pm    Post subject: Handling it all - Is this normal? Reply with quote

Well I arrived in Japan last night and so far I'm completely overwhelmed (which I totally expected)! When I'm out with others I'm completely fine and enjoying myself, but I find that when I'm alone I can't do anything but cry. The only thing I'm sad about is missing my boyfriend. We've been dating for almost three years and I know that there is no one else for me. We have a great relationship and he was extremely supportive of me when I said that I wanted to teach here for a year. Obviously I cannot have constant company, so what is a good way to deal with the sadness of missing him? I don't want to spend the majority of my alone time crying (especially in public!) I feel like some kind of freak.

Thanks in advance for the advice!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Handling it all - Is this normal? Reply with quote

midnightpariah wrote:
Well I arrived in Japan last night and so far I'm completely overwhelmed (which I totally expected)! When I'm out with others I'm completely fine and enjoying myself, but I find that when I'm alone I can't do anything but cry. The only thing I'm sad about is missing my boyfriend. We've been dating for almost three years and I know that there is no one else for me. We have a great relationship and he was extremely supportive of me when I said that I wanted to teach here for a year. Obviously I cannot have constant company, so what is a good way to deal with the sadness of missing him? I don't want to spend the majority of my alone time crying (especially in public!) I feel like some kind of freak.

Thanks in advance for the advice!



If you feel so much for him why did you leave? You do know keep a relationship with someone on the other side of the globe is going to be hard?
How to deal with the sadness of missing him? What works for one person might not work for you, especially when dealing with relationships. However when you are alone, I do suggest deep contemplation.
You need to contemplate what you want to do with your life. You also need to contemplate your strengths and weakness. I believe knowing one's weaknesses is more important than knowing one's strengths. You also need to contemplate what is important to you.

Anyway good luck to you.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Handling it all - Is this normal? Reply with quote

midnightpariah wrote:
...The only thing I'm sad about is missing my boyfriend... We've been dating for almost three years and I know that there is no one else for me... what is a good way to deal with the sadness of missing him? I don't want to spend the majority of my alone time crying...


Grow up. You sound like a 9 year old at summer camp, who is suffering from puppy love and homesickness.

Life is hard. You've made a big life decision in coming to Japan, and I applaud you for that, but after one day in the country, you feel a need to post a message here seeking counsel for a homesick broken heart???

I'm sorry, but you're really gonna need to pull yourself together if you hope to make it beyond a month. If you are incapable of enjoying your own company and/or making a go at being independent, you may have made the wrong decision in coming to Japan.

The best thing you could do going into day 2 is stop crying, get out and explore a bit of your neighbourhood. Seriously, if you're still in Japan in 6 months, come back and re-read your post and you'll be ashamed of how immature it sounds.

Good luck.
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GambateBingBangBOOM



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Handling it all - Is this normal? Reply with quote

User N. Ame wrote:
If you are incapable of enjoying your own company and/or making a go at being independent, you may have made the wrong decision in coming to Japan.


This is absolutely true, but there is no 'may have' about it.

The rest of that post is a bit harsh sounding, but it's also true. You've been in Japan one day. When you are with others you are fine. When you are alone, you cry. It sounds like you need to be with someone all the time. But it's only been ONE DAY, so how much crying could you really have done? You point out you're feeling overwhelmed. So it's natural that you want people to fix your problems- especially if that's how life has generally been for you in the past (and you come off as someone who has had exactly that kind of a past).
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Gordon



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, what supportive posters. Give her a break will you?

Just take it one day at a time, when you start work and make friends, it will be much easier. Japan is a real shock especially if you haven't been overseas before. So many unrecognizable things and many thoughts of "what is it" and "I could never eat that". That is normal. It will get easier.
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midnightpariah



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Handling it all - Is this normal? Reply with quote

User N. Ame wrote:
midnightpariah wrote:
...The only thing I'm sad about is missing my boyfriend... We've been dating for almost three years and I know that there is no one else for me... what is a good way to deal with the sadness of missing him? I don't want to spend the majority of my alone time crying...


Grow up. You sound like a 9 year old at summer camp, who is suffering from puppy love and homesickness.

Life is hard. You've made a big life decision in coming to Japan, and I applaud you for that, but after one day in the country, you feel a need to post a message here seeking counsel for a homesick broken heart???

I'm sorry, but you're really gonna need to pull yourself together if you hope to make it beyond a month. If you are incapable of enjoying your own company and/or making a go at being independent, you may have made the wrong decision in coming to Japan.

The best thing you could do going into day 2 is stop crying, get out and explore a bit of your neighbourhood. Seriously, if you're still in Japan in 6 months, come back and re-read your post and you'll be ashamed of how immature it sounds.

Good luck.



I know it sounds "immature" I guess I wasn't being too clear. I basically just want some advice on how to handle a long distance relationship. I was actually fine until I talked to him last night on the phone and he sounded so sad. He wasn't trying to make me feel guilty. He's been nothing but supportive. But I think that it is the guilt that is getting to me. He's stuck there alone at home while I'm out having a wonderful time. The thing is that I'm not a crying person. When I went to college I moved from the east coast (usa) to the west coast completely on my own and had no problem with it. I even had a boyfriend at the time who I dated for an extremely long time, but I was no where near this emotional. I just was wondering if anyone else had a similar situation.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 12:06 am    Post subject: Re: Handling it all - Is this normal? Reply with quote

midnightpariah wrote:
User N. Ame wrote:
midnightpariah wrote:
...The only thing I'm sad about is missing my boyfriend... We've been dating for almost three years and I know that there is no one else for me... what is a good way to deal with the sadness of missing him? I don't want to spend the majority of my alone time crying...


Grow up. You sound like a 9 year old at summer camp, who is suffering from puppy love and homesickness.

Life is hard. You've made a big life decision in coming to Japan, and I applaud you for that, but after one day in the country, you feel a need to post a message here seeking counsel for a homesick broken heart???

I'm sorry, but you're really gonna need to pull yourself together if you hope to make it beyond a month. If you are incapable of enjoying your own company and/or making a go at being independent, you may have made the wrong decision in coming to Japan.

The best thing you could do going into day 2 is stop crying, get out and explore a bit of your neighbourhood. Seriously, if you're still in Japan in 6 months, come back and re-read your post and you'll be ashamed of how immature it sounds.

Good luck.



I know it sounds "immature" I guess I wasn't being too clear. I basically just want some advice on how to handle a long distance relationship. I was actually fine until I talked to him last night on the phone and he sounded so sad.


Well, it sounds like he needs to grow up, too.

You aren't the first to go through long distance separation with a loved one. I don't doubt your sincerity, but the fact you make this desperate plea for advice 24 hours after your teary arrival... it raises questions about your character and your ability to handle this move.

My honest to goodness constructive advice: no more phone calls to the bf. His weeping in your ear isn't gonna improve your condition. You are about to embark on the greatest adventure of your life. Your bf is not only sad, but likely a bit jealous about your adventure, and no doubt he'd love nothing more than for you to come running back into his arms. Tell your bf no calls for 2 weeks or 1 month, and give yourself a chance to adapt to your new adventure. Tell him you need time to focus on Japan, not on him. If he loves you, he'll understand and agree its for the best. Don't let him spoil your Japan dream.



(Gordon: ya, it was a bit harsh, but sometimes what newbies need is not coddling, but the hard facts of life - call it tough love. Buried deep in her post is not a plea for advice, but a search for a good excuse to turn around and go home.)
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 12:09 am    Post subject: Re: Handling it all - Is this normal? Reply with quote

midnightpariah wrote:
I basically just want some advice on how to handle a long distance relationship.


Break up or go home now. Seriously.

Now people will tell you that long distance relations can work, but the strike rate is really low.

Most people I have known that tried ended up either: having a miserable time and going home early; sticking it out for a year, not enjoying themselves and breaking up anyhow a month after going home; getting completely depressed when the partner 'moves on'; meets someone else and is racked with guilt (or not) for months until a messy break up, etc...

Really, save yourself the sh itty roller coaster ride and get off now. Do it cleanly and maturely now an there is every possiblity that you can pick things up again when you return, or not but it won't matter since you'll be in another place (maturely, emotionally) anyhow.

Why do people insist on being irrational about relationships?
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GambateBingBangBOOM



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 12:24 am    Post subject: Re: Handling it all - Is this normal? Reply with quote

midnightpariah wrote:
He's stuck there alone at home while I'm out having a wonderful time.


Crying whenever you are alone is very definately NOT having a wonderful time.

midnightpariah wrote:
The thing is that I'm not a crying person. When I went to college I moved from the east coast (usa) to the west coast completely on my own and had no problem with it. I even had a boyfriend at the time who I dated for an extremely long time, but I was no where near this emotional. I just was wondering if anyone else had a similar situation.


Moving from one side of one country to the other side of the same country is not like going from the States (or Canada or the UK or wherever you grew up) to an entirely different culture and language- especially if you know absolutely zero of the language (do you, btw know any Japanese? It'll help you if you do).

How long are you planning on staying in Japan? I've known tonnes of girls who arrived with boyfriends in the States and or Canada or wherever, and they always got through at least a year with no problems. I've also known guys who arrived from the States and their girlfriends broke up with them during their first few months- in one case the second week!
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 12:28 am    Post subject: Re: Handling it all - Is this normal? Reply with quote

User N. Ame wrote:
midnightpariah wrote:
User N. Ame wrote:
midnightpariah wrote:
...The only thing I'm sad about is missing my boyfriend... We've been dating for almost three years and I know that there is no one else for me... what is a good way to deal with the sadness of missing him? I don't want to spend the majority of my alone time crying...


Grow up. You sound like a 9 year old at summer camp, who is suffering from puppy love and homesickness.

Life is hard. You've made a big life decision in coming to Japan, and I applaud you for that, but after one day in the country, you feel a need to post a message here seeking counsel for a homesick broken heart???

I'm sorry, but you're really gonna need to pull yourself together if you hope to make it beyond a month. If you are incapable of enjoying your own company and/or making a go at being independent, you may have made the wrong decision in coming to Japan.

The best thing you could do going into day 2 is stop crying, get out and explore a bit of your neighbourhood. Seriously, if you're still in Japan in 6 months, come back and re-read your post and you'll be ashamed of how immature it sounds.

Good luck.



I know it sounds "immature" I guess I wasn't being too clear. I basically just want some advice on how to handle a long distance relationship. I was actually fine until I talked to him last night on the phone and he sounded so sad.


Well, it sounds like he needs to grow up, too.

You aren't the first to go through long distance separation with a loved one. I don't doubt your sincerity, but the fact you make this desperate plea for advice 24 hours after your teary arrival... it raises questions about your character and your ability to handle this move.

My honest to goodness constructive advice: no more phone calls to the bf. His weeping in your ear isn't gonna improve your condition. You are about to embark on the greatest adventure of your life. Your bf is not only sad, but likely a bit jealous about your adventure, and no doubt he'd love nothing more than for you to come running back into his arms. Tell your bf no calls for 2 weeks or 1 month, and give yourself a chance to adapt to your new adventure. Tell him you need time to focus on Japan, not on him. If he loves you, he'll understand and agree its for the best. Don't let him spoil your Japan dream.



(Gordon: ya, it was a bit harsh, but sometimes what newbies need is not coddling, but the hard facts of life - call it tough love. Buried deep in her post is not a plea for advice, but a search for a good excuse to turn around and go home.)


Thanks. I know that it was a bit premature to post about feeling sad, but it is just so unusual for me to have a break down like this that it kinda scared me. He wasn't being immature. Never once did he say he was sad, he just sounded unlike his normal self. I know I'll be ok. Once I find a gym it'll be smooth sailing. It's been 3 days since I've gone. I'm probably going through withdrawl. If all else fails, I can blame it on PMS or something! lol

Seriously you weren't harsh. You actually made me feel better. I realize that I was acting like a middle school girl. Since we plan on getting married a year after I get back, I should use this time to enjoy being single! =o)

You guys are awesome!

~Vanessa
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callmesim



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with what everyone's said but at the same time, just wanted to let you know that what you're going through isn't strange. I know I found the first few days pretty tough and I've always enjoyed my own company. It's just that thing of enjoying your company when you have the option of people around and being forced to enjoy your own company because you're alone in a country and everything is new.

Stick it out though and it'll get better and you'll love the experience. Promise!
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 1:44 am    Post subject: Love letters Reply with quote

Callmesim said

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It's just that thing of enjoying your company when you have the option of people around and being forced to enjoy your own company because you're alone in a country and everything is new.


That's just it - this year will teach you to be happy with yourself. If you choose to look at it this way.

The first year I was here, I was engaged to a boy back home. Within three months, we spent way too much money on phone calls, and I wasn't really "here". I was too busy thinking about what we were doing in our relationship. Over time, I learned to appreciate being here and being myself, without depending on anyone.

We broke up after three months. The second time I had a long-distance relationship, it lasted four years. It is possible.

Be careful about phones. Calling home is really dangerous. It disconnects you from the life you're living here. Be here. Instead of calling, either write long emails, keep an online journal, or write old fashioned love letters.

I find the anticipation of a letter is one of the sweetest things about living away from the country of my birth, my family and my community. Nothing beats seeing my grandmother's cyrillic-slanted English writing, or hand made paper from my mother. My Swedish boyfriend goes home in September for three months. We'll be sending regular letters, print club stickers, etc to keep physically connected.

Writing gives you time to process your thoughts. Over the phone, your anxieties just make his bigger. Letters will give you time to be alone with your thoughts, and test the maturity of your relationship.

Good luck.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it's any consolation, I knew a teacher in the exact same situation as you... woman coming to Japan, long-time boyfriend at home, cried in her apartment on her first night. She managed the emotional-overload and turned out to be one of the most with-it people I've ever encountered while here. I think she managed it by being social and getting involved with other projects. She also had a few flings.

When she got back home after a year here, she got engaged.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 2:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is no need to "break up or go home now". I know people whose relationships have survived a year or more while one was in Japan and the other stayed home. My husband was transferred to India to work for 6 months at the end of last year- I missed him but I obviously never considered divorcing him because a long distance relationship would have been too hard to maintain- that would have been a bit drastic!

Actually you might have found yourself crying even without the boyfriend at home- I know a lot of people, guys included, who have arrived in Japan where they know no-one, found themselves alone the first night in their tiny, sparsely furnished, fluorescent-lit room and got mildly depressed and burst into tears. One or two actually went home within the week, but most of them stuck it out, me included, and in some cases are still here years later (almost 10 years for me!).

It's just a part of the culture shock. You won't enjoy every minute but if you let yourself you will have a great time mostly. Try Skyping your boyfriend using a camera so you can see each other, chat online, email plenty and it won't be so bad- that's what worked for us. If he can come to visit at some time that would be great too.

Good luck!

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The tips about not calling regularly, especially skype, is good. That contact will make you feel like you are in between Japan and the States and will make you feel worse.

Love letters are a great idea.

My g/f (now wife) spent a summer away and we wrote to each other nearly every day. That anticipation of the letter in the mail was the best. Emails aren`t the same. That was 12 years ago and we`re still going strong.
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