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How long since the monthly basic increased?
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matador



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 8:00 am    Post subject: How long since the monthly basic increased? Reply with quote

Just a topic that came up with a couple of comrades: How long HAS the basic been set at 250,000 a month? I said for about 15 yrs...she said about 20 yrs. Who is closer? And...c`mon....20 yrs...does this happen in other professions or is it only EFL in Japan!?

Finally, what is a REALISTIC pay rise to receive each year...I said about 10%...she said about 5%. Any experiences here?
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furiousmilksheikali



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Monthly basic increase? Confused

Pay rise? Confused
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GambateBingBangBOOM



Joined: 04 Nov 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's been going DOWN for years! 250,000Y is no longer the minimum.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pay raise? Who gets that? Darned few, especially in eikaiwa. What we should get and what we do get are totally different.

As for the original question itself, what does it really matter?
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Jon Taylor



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski wrote:
Pay raise? Who gets that? Darned few, especially in eikaiwa. What we should get and what we do get are totally different.

As for the original question itself, what does it really matter?



Well if your worth your salt to your eikawa then you should be looking at a 10,000~20,000 pay increase per year.

First year - 250,000
Second year - 270,000
Third year - 290,000

If your eikawa isn't offering you such rises then I would suggest to you all that you move to a different company......one that appreciates the value of experience.
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matador



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, Jon. Good solid answer, mate.
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Yawarakaijin



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am paid hourly, so at the end of the month it works out to substantially more than 250,000 yen per month, but my basic minimum gauranteed salary has gone from 250,000 to 270,000 in two years. There are companies out there that offer pay raises.

They are hard to find but company gigs seem to be the way to go nowadays. Make contacts, market yourself as an in-house language teacher to large to midsize companies ( actually small is ok too) and there is money to be made. I'm in Kanagawa now but will be moving to Nagano-ken next week. Five to six classes a day (four days a week) plus walking around chatting to the employees is going to be netting me close to 400,000 yen per month. There are other options than eikaiwas or colleges.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well if your worth your salt to your eikawa
That is a slap in my face. Many of us indeed are worth our salt, but the economy forces some employers to just keep offering the same salary year round, regardless of talent. You don't want the long version of this (my) story, but I suggest watching how you write.

In a perfect world, we'd all be eligible for pay raises. This is not a perfect world, and moving on is not always an option.
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Khyron



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski wrote: