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Time to crack open the Ayran and break out the Burqas?
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Golightly



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:06 am    Post subject: Time to crack open the Ayran and break out the Burqas? Reply with quote

The AKP are back in, the MHP will have 17% of the populist vote, and several pro-Kurdish MPs will be in parliament. Thoughts, opinions, everyone?
Will the tanks start rolling? If you're walking down the street with someone of the opposite sex, will you have to prove that you are related or married to them? Is this the rise of the Koylus? Will having a large 'tache and smoking Maltepes become a requirement by law? Is this the end of the huge bouffant hairstyle, flattened as it will be by the headscarf?
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tararu



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes...I think that strong family planning restrictions should have been put in place about 30 years ago in rural areas....nevermind.....Power to the villagers!!!!
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Baba Alex



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:05 am    Post subject: Re: Time to crack open the Ayran and break out the Burqas? Reply with quote

Golightly wrote:
The AKP are back in, the MHP will have 17% of the populist vote, and several pro-Kurdish MPs will be in parliament. Thoughts, opinions, everyone?
Will the tanks start rolling? If you're walking down the street with someone of the opposite sex, will you have to prove that you are related or married to them? Is this the rise of the Koylus? Will having a large 'tache and smoking Maltepes become a requirement by law? Is this the end of the huge bouffant hairstyle, flattened as it will be by the headscarf?


I totally forgot to stock up before the booze ban, yesterday was a livivng hell, although I managed to find a friend who had some Malibu.
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Golightly



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Malibu is indeed living hell, but it could have been worse: a half-bottle of Dubbonet. Or the situation I have been in before, where I went round to one of my student's house, and he presented a bottle of 'vintage' red wine - Kavaklidere, or something similar if I remember.
'I have been storing this for many years', he said ' and I think now is the special occasion to open it'.
God knows where he'd been hiding it, but it was absolutely foul, really musty and vinegary. All the time I'm trying to pull a polite face whilst retching, and he's going 'ah yes, what a vintage wine this is!'
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readdave



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 11:45 am    Post subject: Now that the election is complete, what does it really mean? Reply with quote

How do you feel about the election results?
Is Turkey now a more safe place to be?
What else can you tell me?
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yaramaz



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

More safe than when? Than yesterday? Than 5 years ago? And what is safe? Not getting shot in the streets by leftists or rightists or having random military coups or public executions? And are we talking about Turkey in general, or just the western bits where most of the foreigners congregate or are we thinking about the east or...?

It seems to be ok. Haven't been killed recently, but then again, I'm not a journalist.
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Otterman Ollie



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Things will go on pretty much the same as it has for the last five years . Expect more taxes on booze and fags (sorry censors ) I mean ciggies , and inflation and interest rates to move down and property prices to rise . I don't think black will be the colour of choice either .
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justme



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the k�yl�s rose long ago.

Funny thing about this election is that, for all the fuss and to-do leading up to it, everything now is, um, exactly the same as it was before the election.

Except maybe the nationalists have a better idea where they stand.
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scb222



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:02 pm    Post subject: precisely Reply with quote

yes, precisely. exactly the same as before - except for one major difference... now the military cannot intervene. it was a very clever and righteous ploy by the ak party to selflessly call elections when they knew darn well they were going to win, and hence have the right to instigate their mandate. what can anyone do now if they decide to put their old presidential choice on the "throne"???!!! surely now, it's what "the people" want. of course in a severely polarized country like turkey "the people" are always going to be those that are less educated and more religious. birth control may have helped, by less corruption and a better spread of wealth throughout the country would have been a better alterative. sadly, as eastern turkey is not very livable, life there is never gonna be as prosperous as along the coast or on the european side so this problem will continue til eternity.
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justme



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But can't the military still intervene? I think it would be more of a calamity, but I thought their job wasn't to preserve democracy, but secularity.

But yeah, if they do it now, it looks a whole lot worse. On the other hand, it's never been the military pandering to the EU, but the government...
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007



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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How do you feel about the election results?
Is Turkey now a more safe place to be?
What else can you tell me?

This is DEMOCRACY my friend, and the Turkish people have chosen their destiny, so why some of the posters are 'un-happy' like Uncle Sam. Why this 'Islamo-phobia' against the AKP party?

Yes Turkey is safe and will be safe as far as the Generals and uncles Sam do not put their noses in the Political and Economical life of Turkey.

I will tell you that Turkey is in the correct political and economical path, and the powers of the Military and the big Mafia will be curtailed in the near future, and the next step is for the EU membership.


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It seems to be ok. Haven't been killed recently, but then again, I'm not a journalist.

Don't worry Yaramaz, as far as you are 'skiing' in the peaceful road with your 'butterfly' nobody will harm you.

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Funny thing about this election is that, for all the fuss and to-do leading up to it, everything now is, um, exactly the same as it was before the election

I do not think so, the AKP party position is more stronger now than before. And the military cannot intervene as before.


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of course in a severely polarized country like turkey "the people" are always going to be those that are less educated and more religious

No, my friend, the people of Turkey is Educated and Religious, and most of the AKP people are very highly educated (some were graduated from Western Universities), and in the same time are religious.
The West, as usual, apply double standard towards the Islamic countries, and when the islamists win through democratic means, then the West claims that the people is not educated!!! This is an old symphony of Uncle Sam, and you have to forget about it.

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but I thought their job wasn't to preserve democracy, but secularity.

Neither of them!!! The job of the Military mafia is to preserve their business and corrupted system of state.
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scot47



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So when can we expect the restoration of the Caliphate ? And the New Siege of Vienna ?
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007



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When Scotland becomes Kingdom.
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yaramaz



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When the American republican party got into power in 2000 and 2004, no one headlined their win as Evangelical Christians Win Election, but the main internet headlines all screamed Islamists Take Hold of Turkey... I'd much rather be governed by the AK Parti than by George Bush's minions. And I think the AK folk have done a better job of keeping faith and state separate.
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runeman



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yaramaz wrote:
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I'd much rather be governed by the AK Parti


Yaramaz? Baa baa good sheep, more like! Governed, you want to be, and so you shall be to your grave! Follow the leader!
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