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yaramaz
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Don't be an a.ss, rudeman. Nice to see you don't let yourself succumb to mindless, pointless belittling based on taking a quote out of context just for the sake of seeming clever (and no, you aren't).
We were talking about the election results and I was merely making a comparison between how the American and Turkish elections were received and perceived.
I'd still take the AK parti over the American republicans any day-- far less evil. And I think on many levels I'd prefer to live in a Turkey not ruled by isolationist nationalists, so if moderate Islamists turn up and run the show, let's give them the benefit of the doubt. |
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Vixter
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And let's face it, there really weren't any viable alternatives. Time for Baykal to go.
I think at this time Turkey needs stability - a new governing party would have turned things on their head till they'd settled in. I hope AKP get rid of the religious cronies appointed on the reasoning that they are pious and loyal - how about who's best for the job. |
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Golightly
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And let's face it, there really weren't any viable alternatives. Time for Baykal to go.
I think at this time Turkey needs stability - a new governing party would have turned things on their head till they'd settled in. I hope AKP get rid of the religious cronies appointed on the reasoning that they are pious and loyal - how about who's best for the job. |
Can you name a single government, anywhere and anytime, that has ever actually done this? 
Personally, I think it's high time that Turkey had long term political stability, and the AKP seem to be delivering that. OK, they are not to everyone's taste: I certainly distrust any and all forms of pious posturing, and I find their legislating for things that should be private strangely prurient. Indeed, I suspect that their religiosity will come back to bite them on the bum in the future - sex scandals, bribery etc. It happens in other countries, it'll happen in Turkey. However, I'm glad to see the back of those sneering, rich, uber-tory bas.turds who lorded it in government during the 90's. |
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Golightly
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| When Scotland becomes Kingdom. |
Scotland IS A kingdom - part of the united crown of the UK. I know certain posters on this forum may find that distasteful.  |
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FGT
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Can you find fault with Abdullah Gul as foreign minister? He's probably better admired abroad than at home, where, sadly, his wife's head gear is more likely to be in the headlines than his dealings with world leaders. Who would you put in to that job? |
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yaramaz
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| I think Abdullah Gul is well qualified, well educated, and has done an excellent job so far--- and I'm speaking as a long time atheist, secular lefty who really doesn't like or trust politics or politicians. Like Golightly, I just think it's about time Turkey had a bit of stability. The past five years have been quite stable and although I don't agree with the AK Parti on a lot of policies or perspectives, I still think they are more trust worthy and less evil than other options. |
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MEDRACER
Joined: 28 May 2007
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| Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 4:16 am Post subject: HOW DID IT ALL START ANYWAY? |
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| I'm waiting to see who gets chosen for President, which is the issue that kick-started the whole election process anyway. In the meantime, does anyone have a list of ministerial positions, who gets what? |
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Golightly
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| Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:07 am Post subject: |
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| I'll vote Baba Alex for president. Howmucharefags can be minister in charge of booze, f4gs and morality. |
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