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| What language is spoken in your home? |
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45% |
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11% |
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38% |
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spiral78

Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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Ah, I see - thanks for the clarification!
Maybe the more relevant distinction in my context is 'big' versus 'small.' I can see that prestige is an entirely different (and probably much more sensitive) aspect to consider. |
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Gordon

Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 5309 Location: Japan
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 12:00 am Post subject: |
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| I believe prestige has to do with the context you're in, otherwise every language would be a prestige language. Czech would not be a prestige language outside of Europe. Some languages are more universal and of course have prestige anywhere (English, French, German...). |
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spiral78

Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:38 am Post subject: |
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By this (useful) definition, Czech isn't a prestige language within Europe, either, only within the borders of the Czech Rep, and possibly Slovakia!
That's probably why I ranked it in 'non-prestigous' in my initial posting on the subject.
I wonder if Melee's talking about dialects or codes or something when she discusses prestige and lack of it in the speakers in Mexico. Would those non-prestigious utterances be considered officially a different language altogether? |
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MELEE

Joined: 22 Jan 2003 Posts: 2583 Location: The Mexican Hinterland
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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Mexico is the home to more than 52 different languages. Many of which do have various dialects, but in no way shape or form are the same as Spanish. Monoligual speakers of these languages can not understand Spanish is the slightest. They are as much a different language from Spanish as Chinese is.
Czech is a national langauge there for holds linguistic prestige. Maybe Mexico is too foriegn of an example to be easily grasped. How about Ireland. English vs. Gaelic. Gaelic lacks the prestige of English. While it has been somewhat successfully revived--in comparison to other endangered languages of the world. It still struggles for it's lack of prestige. |
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Justin Trullinger

Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 3110 Location: Seoul, South Korea and Myanmar for a bit
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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| I believe prestige has to do with the context you're in, otherwise every language would be a prestige language. |
I'm not sure about this. The prestige of indigenous languages in Ecuador is low- even amongst people who speak them. I have many times met Quichua speaking parents who don't want their children to grow up speaking Quichua. It's sad, but I understand how racism can infect the minds of the victims. (In most cases, they've been spit on for being, and speaking, Quichua all their lives, and without overly sophisticated analysis, they don't want their kids to get spit on.)
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dmb

Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Posts: 8397
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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My wife is Canadian. A few months ago I took her down the local in Scotland...... She had problems understanding the locals and vice versa.
Next week I'm off to Canada and I have every confidence in my ability to communicate in a foreign language.
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If not I'll get them to buy me beer.
Drunk..... it's an international language |
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miski
Joined: 04 Jul 2007 Posts: 298 Location: Kuwait
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:42 am Post subject: |
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| Kids speak Arabic with Dad and English with me. We speak a mixture when all together......sometimes kids speak half sentences in English and Aabic or put Arabic gender endings on English words , which is quite amusing! |
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misterkodak

Joined: 04 Apr 2003 Posts: 166 Location: Neither Here Nor There
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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I speak German with my wife (mainly) but also English and Turkish. Although she's Turkish, German is the dominant language in our relationship. With my oldest daughter ... English. Nothing more. She prefers it this way, somehow. She's a foreign language (Mandarin Chinese) student in college now. My smallest daughter and I speak English and Turkish. It's amazing how much German she has picked up just by being around us and hearing it spoken and having her cousins who come from Germany in the summer to practice with.
Somehow, I think it would be boring if we only spoke English all the time. I do that enough at work.  |
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naturegirl321

Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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| misterkodak wrote: |
| I speak German with my wife (mainly) but also English and Turkish. Although she's Turkish, German is the dominant language in our relationship. With my oldest daughter ... English. Nothing more. She prefers it this way, somehow. She's a foreign language (Mandarin Chinese) student in college now. |
If you don't mind me asking, how did German became the language tht you speak? Why not Turkish? |
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misterkodak

Joined: 04 Apr 2003 Posts: 166 Location: Neither Here Nor There
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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| We both grew up in Germany. My wife's father worked there for 30 years. I grew up there as a military brat. My BA is in German Lang. and Lit. |
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TwinCentre
Joined: 22 Mar 2007 Posts: 273 Location: Mokotow
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Teatime of Soul
Joined: 12 Apr 2007 Posts: 905
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 11:11 am Post subject: |
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We speak binary.
Unless we are telling a joke, then we speak LISP programming language.
Things just sound funnier in LISP. |
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