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John Hall



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 1:09 am    Post subject: Working with Student Motivation Reply with quote

I just finished talking to an EFL professor who described his approach to teaching his university class as "purely motivational." In other words, in every class he works first and foremost on the students' motivation. Every activity he does in class is designed to improve that motivation. It is an intensive four-skills class of about 20 students that he teaches, but he says that he spends most of his time working on getting the students--sometimes on a one-to-one basis--to lose their fear of speaking in English.

I wonder how many of us use an approach like this. Or do most of us concern ourselves with abstract explanations of the concepts behind the meaning of the present perfect tense, and that sort of thing? As an English teacher, to what extent do you see yourself as a motivator? Do you address personal issues, such as the fear of speaking in public, the fear of making a mistake, the students' "language ego" (does the student believe that he or she can become proficient in English?), or the students' awkwardness or uneasiness with English language cultures?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting question!

Obviously students who feel safe enough in a classroom environment to speak freely will probably develop their English skills faster. In my opinion, a part of our work is to set up conditions that contribute to a comfortable, co-operative atmosphere, so that students will feel safe enough to take linguistic risks.

But I don't think we can teach motivation, particularly not on a one-to-one basis. A classroom's not made up of student + teacher, it's student+student+student X however many students, + teacher. To me, it's almost more important that they feel comfortable speaking English with each other - they're going to have far more talking time in this mode than one to one with me, in real terms.

In fact, I'd be leery of singling out a student for this kind of 'counseling,' not to make him/her feel self-conscious.

I just finished a pilot intensive course for mixed-level adult learners a couple of months ago. It's only two weeks, so it was really important to get them started talking right away, on day one. The first task was to stand and introduce yourself to all the other students in the room (standing, moving around, and talking to everybody right away 'breaks' the traditional rules of classrooms). Then I asked them to plan to introduce someone else to the whole class. That's where I thought they'd start to freak - it's scary to speak to the whole class, especially so early in a course. So I let them choose what turns they wanted to take, meaning the more confident ones went first, providing models for less confident/weaker students. All feedback was positive, and if there were any questions about an intro, I referred them to the student being introduced, not the speaker, so nobody got stuck trying to produce info they might not have.

The rest of the day continued in small group and pair mode, and by day 2 every student opted to be videotaped as a part of an instruction-giving task.

I give most credit to the students themselves - they were great, really highly motivated long before I ever met them, but the did say that setting the class mode right away gave them more confidence to speak.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:09 am    Post subject: Re: Working with Student Motivation Reply with quote

John Hall wrote:
I just finished talking to an EFL professor who described his approach to teaching his university class as "purely motivational." In other words, in every class he works first and foremost on the students' motivation. Every activity he does in class is designed to improve that motivation. It is an intensive four-skills class of about 20 students that he teaches, but he says that he spends most of his time working on getting the students--sometimes on a one-to-one basis--to lose their fear of speaking in English.

I wonder how many of us use an approach like this. Or do most of us concern ourselves with abstract explanations of the concepts behind the meaning of the present perfect tense, and that sort of thing? As an English teacher, to what extent do you see yourself as a motivator? Do you address personal issues, such as the fear of speaking in public, the fear of making a mistake, the students' "language ego" (does the student believe that he or she can become proficient in English?), or the students' awkwardness or uneasiness with English language cultures?

In lower levels it is crucial. When I was first starting out, I had a couple of more experienced teachers give me advice. One told me "your job is to get them speaking." Another one, who is my boss told me he thought the teacher should never be doing the lion's share of talking during a language lesson.

I have used first lessons to discuss the issue. For example, following a "get to know you" game(with pre-intermediate or intermediate students) I used to write some statements on the board:
All mistakes are bad.
It's better to keep quiet than to speak English and make a mistake.
Johnnyappleseed knows everything.
Then, I'd have them discuss the points in little groups, then bring it into a brief plenary discussion.

For complete beginners, the first thing I usually do is "What can you say in English?" in which I brainstorm words they already know. The whole point of that is motivation. I think it works pretty well.


I have another activity that's a bit more complicated, but, haha, I can't remember it without checking my notes(which aren't here.)

Generally, I think you have to create an environment that encourages speaking; some people are really really shy and afraid that you're going to laugh at them. I never laugh at mistakes, no matter how funny they are: most people can take it, but it makes some people feel really bad.
Usually, I suppose it's more the approach in class, the personality I try to project rather than any activities that specifically target motivation.

Also I am very careful about activities: it's a good idea to know what you're students are capable of. Activities that are too difficult are de-motivating. I'd want to challenge the students, but if there's ever any doubt, I would rather give them something that's too easy than too difficult.

Sometimes you get lucky and get a class who don't really need motivation. But you still have to be careful not to discourage them.
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tedkarma



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To me, it is all about motivation - and I certainly see myself as a motivation-focused instructor.

While reducing the student's anxiety about speaking is certainly a primary task, I think it is also important to let students know WHY they need to learn to do this, WHEN they might need to use it - and with WHOM.

I almost never teach straight grammar, but tend focus on functions. Certainly with occupational English it makes much more sense, but can also be applied in a regular university or language school settings just as well.

The use of functions, to me, greatly increases motivation as students at least have some idea why they might need to use the language (some day . . .).

And - lessons do need to be set up for student success. That doesn't mean we lower the bar - but it does mean that it needs to be realistic.
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johnnyappleseed



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree, but maybe it's just a matter of semantics, but to me that's what teaching grammar is.

I like how you put it!
Show them how to do it, why, when and with whom!! Then get them to practice

I'm not teaching a class of linguistics, I'm trying to get them speaking so they can use their skills in the real world.
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tedkarma



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnnyappleseed wrote:
I agree, but maybe it's just a matter of semantics, but to me that's what teaching grammar is.


I tend to think of "functions" as being things like "Answering the telephone", "Taking messages", "Making a sales call", "Giving directions", "Dealing with complaints", etc. If that is what you have in mind then we might agree.

I tend to teach the grammar as a mini-lesson (or two or three) in the midst of it all.
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johnnyappleseed



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see. That's not exactly what I had in mind, but I don't disagree. I certainly think that those functional skills should be included in general course.
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John Hall



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 3:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Working with Student Motivation Reply with quote

johnnyappleseed wrote:
Also I am very careful about activities: it's a good idea to know what you're students are capable of. Activities that are too difficult are de-motivating. I'd want to challenge the students, but if there's ever any doubt, I would rather give them something that's too easy than too difficult.


I would say that this is the current problem that I am facing in three courses that I am teaching now. All are advanced level classes. Ultimately, in order to graduate from the university that they are attending, my students have to score 127 points on an exam called the ELASH (English Language Assessment System for Hispanics). I have taken the exam myself, so I know all about it. There is a lot of hard grammar on it (past unreal conditional, passive causative, few/a few, little/a little, etc.), reading exercises that have to be done super fast, and listening exercises that you only get one chance at.

I know that if I were to let my students progress at their "natural" rate of learning that many of them wouldn't be able to score that 127. So, the course has to be harder than what they are accustomed to, and I have to hope that they will adapt to this "harsher climate." It's an 8 hour per week, 15 week course, so they are stuffed full of a mountain of vocabulary and overwhelming grammar. The result has been that almost every single student's mark on the second midterm was lower than on their first midterm. In fact, over 50% of my students failed the second midterm. Many have become "demotivated." Some have dropped out. And about half of those who remain spend most of the time in class chatting in Spanish with their neighbors.

Any suggestions?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im a new teacher, and employed in China as an oral teacher...this of course means I dont have to worry so much about the grammar side of things.

For anyone in my shoes....encouraging the students to speak is a difficult task...and whilst I do see myself as a motivator outside the classroom with the keener students, its much harder to succesfully transfer these skills to an entire class of mixed ability and confidence, so I hope this thread continues and some more ideas get added for us newbies...especially as there may be some more new FTs starting in the new term.

I do agree with the comments about making the lesson easy enough...I try to plan activities for the lower end of ability, but leave enough scope and freedom for the brighhter students to do more..

Any more ideas for classroom motivation much appreciated though!
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tedkarma



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 9:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Working with Student Motivation Reply with quote

John Hall wrote:
I know that if I were to let my students progress at their "natural" rate of learning that many of them wouldn't be able to score that 127. So, the course has to be harder than what they are accustomed to, and I have to hope that they will adapt to this "harsher climate." It's an 8 hour per week, 15 week course, so they are stuffed full of a mountain of vocabulary and overwhelming grammar.


This sounds like a class where a very frank discussion needs to be had on the first or second day about the purpose of the class, the work that needs to be done, and the difficulty of the task at hand (ELASH, not the course exams) - and I might even have students do a short discussion of - or even brainstorming with ideas up on the board (so they are brought into the problem and solution) about what needs to be done over the next 15 weeks so they CAN pass the exam.

I might also have them sign a contract - and might let them design the contract - about what must be done in the class.

I do think it is quite possible to get students on board - and motivated - if they feel their instructor truly has their best interests at heart - and they see and understand the difficulty of the task at hand (passing the ELASH).

Make it goal - and energizing task - and make them feel involved in getting it done.

All this needs to be done, of course, with a "We CAN do it!" attitude.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with Ted that motivation is key. Also that functions are important, but would say that grammar is, too (bucking a modern trend to eliminate grammar) - my courses revolve around 50% grammar (theory) and 50% functions (practice). 1st year students get a heavy dose of phonetics as well.

But their motivation is key. A key to that key is to have the students constantly experience success. You have to give them something they can 'win' at and let them see themselves win. That's probably why, John, your results went down.

For example, if you are teaching beginners how questions are formed, you provide a table showing question word order, explain it, provide examples, have them (orally or in writing) fill in blanks, and
then give them simple questions in L1 to translate. Once they get the mathematical nature of question word order and start doing it themselves, they light up!

Point is, at every step, they need to be successful. When they get more stuff thrown at them than they can handle, they will start dropping out.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ well said Rooskimeister. привет
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rusmeister wrote:
I agree with Ted that motivation is key. Also that functions are important, but would say that grammar is, too (bucking a modern trend to eliminate grammar) - my courses revolve around 50% grammar (theory) and 50% functions (practice). 1st year students get a heavy dose of phonetics as well.


Good points all.

Good phonetics has to be an important part of every lesson. Few things are more demotivating for a student than to approach a native speaker, belt out a statement or question, and get a blank look and "What?" from them.

I would never suggest eliminating grammar - I only suggest that teaching it in isolation is demotivating and rather uninteresting. Teaching it as an integral component of a functions lesson (no reason why you can't use a structure table as you suggest - in fact you SHOULD) creates a need for the grammar - and a reason to look at it.

Nothing bores students more than when a class that begins with the instructor saying, "Today, we are going to learn how to use 'used to' correctly . . ." It's only about 60 seconds until the first student wants to head to the bathroom.

I am sure you aren't suggesting teaching grammar in isolation - but there are many teachers who do - and wonder why their students are unmotivated. In fact, that kind of grammar method/lesson is so PPP/ESA and taught in so many TEFL Cert programs - that it is really too bad.

I taught it as a teacher trainer as it was part of the course - but I always suggested using it within the context of a bigger scheme of things - to create a reason for learning it. Sadly, sometimes my teacher-trainees were marked down by CELTA/TEFL Cert clones who knew no other way to approach things. And I certainly mean CLONES - one-method madness!

Babbling on here - but hope that was clear!
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Motivation from teachers is what separates a language class and self-study. The adult students that I have taught could probably study English by themselves, the reason they pay money and attend a class is to be motivated, by the teacher and by the other students.

I observed a teacher not too long ago who was having a lot of complaints from students. I found (among other things) that he didn't praise or give feedback to his students once in his 90 minute lesson. The students worked hard and did a great job, but it was never acknowledged and they left the class feeling deflated.

A former student who recently graduated from our college with an AA degree told me, "I will never forgot what you told us on our first day of class." I couldn't remember. She said, you told us to push ourselves and not to give up. Whenever I got tired of studying or felt I had reached my limit, I remembered that and it helped to motivate me.

Students have to feel that they are making progress. That is why they will return to the class day after day or re-enroll when the time comes--their teacher motivated them.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

John Hall wrote:
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in every class he works first and foremost on the students' motivation. Every activity he does in class is designed to improve that motivation. It is an intensive four-skills class of about 20 students
Stop there.

Personally, I think that 20 students should be the ultimate maximum one teacher should handle, especially if that teacher wants to spend a lot of time dealing with student motivation. But the truth is, how many of us really have that luxury? I teach university classes, and yes, some of them are 10-20 students, but the majority are 50-120 students in size. I consider myself a good teacher, who tries to instill motivation (or at least maintain what they have) and to teach functional English, not just raw grammar. However, there is a limit to how much time one can spend, even in a 90-minute course when you have 55 students mingling about. Cut them down to a couple of dozen pairs, you say? Sorry, I'm still dealing with 55 students or more. It is just physically impossible to give everyone my individual attention.

What's more, that's just for OC classes. I also teach writing, reading, listening, and TOEIC courses. I'm sure others do, too. You can't go around spending long stretches of time trying to instill motivation when the point is to read, write, or practice listening skills.

Sherri wrote:
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Students have to feel that they are making progress. That is why they will return to the class day after day or re-enroll when the time comes--their teacher motivated them.
I agree in principle, Sherri, and I do my best to motivate. However, the reason why people return to class every day in university is simply because they need the credit to graduate, and they can afford to be absent only 80% of the time. In high school and JHS, they don't even have that much choice. In eikaiwa, they may feel motivation from the teacher, or they may just feel they want to get the most out of the money they paid. Heck, I'm taking a language class now that is FREE, and I grumble every time I go! That teacher is surely not motivating me! The reason students will try in class is that they are either strongly motivated on the inside, or they get strong enough feedback from their teachers.
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