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prlester



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 5:17 pm    Post subject: nova Reply with quote

Is nova through, I had to leave them this summer. No chance of a come back?

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Apsara



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My guess is probably not. Multiple lates and complaints in such a short time and then quitting in only 2 months are all going to count quite heavily against you, even with the letter from your supervisor. Those are all the things Nova hates most, apart from dating students. It sounds like you didn't really enjoy the job, so why would you want to go back anyway?

As for how long they keep your records, I left Nova 6 months into a new 3 year visa and when I called them 2.5 years later to get the severance documents I needed for my next visa renewal they still had my information. How much longer than that they might continue to hold on to information I can't really say.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Several lates in just 2 months? Why, pray tell?

And, moreover, why would you want to return to them anyway, especially in their current bad situation?
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anne_o



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, sometimes people behave like humans instead of robots and end up being late! It happens.
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Apsara



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was late once in 2.5 years. Nova's hefty penalties for being late (half a day's pay docked plus any missed lessons deducted) were motivation enough to keep me from doing it any more than that. Some people were chronically late though and ended up losing huge chunks of their salary- some people aren't motivated enough by financial penalties I suppose.
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ironopolis



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As many have pointed out, resigning from Nova is a pretty simple business, yet the OP in recent months has asked quite a bizarre amount of questions about the ins & outs of doing this. I remember all this as I was one of those who tried to help out with some advice on a previous thread. And now whereas the OP before said he was resigning from nova due to an "opportunity at home", this has now become "an unforeseen occurence". Ok, those two are not necessarily mutually exclusive, but I'm sure I'm not the only one suspecting something fishy here.

In fact I really do hope the OP IS playing the troll with this thread or is just posting it for some kind of laugh as it has to be one of the least sensible questions I've ever seen on here. For gawd's sake, ask the same bloody question about ANY company - you resign after only a few months, and even in the short time you're there you accumulate a number of lates and complaints - what do you think their attitude towards a possible re-hire would be? Exclamation
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prlester



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 9:44 am    Post subject: heh Reply with quote

Well things are kind of lax at nova. Also, I think they throw out the complaints if you they like you. Becuase of my lates I was not. Anyway, in the future I may want to come back for a spell.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

anne_o wrote:
Well, sometimes people behave like humans instead of robots and end up being late! It happens.
Sorry, anne, but that is a poor excuse. Start a new job and in the first 2 months be late several times!? No matter where you go, that's grounds for a stern reprimand, wouldn't you say?

Would be interesting to know if the OP had 3 or more lates, and what the reasons were...
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JonnyB61



Joined: 30 Oct 2006
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski wrote:
anne_o wrote:
Well, sometimes people behave like humans instead of robots and end up being late! It happens.
Sorry, anne, but that is a poor excuse. Start a new job and in the first 2 months be late several times!? No matter where you go, that's grounds for a stern reprimand, wouldn't you say?


I definitely agree with Glenski here. Sorry Ane, but that's excuse making at its sloppiest. Anyone who has served any time in the Armed Forces, (known as the Military in NorthAmerica) will confirm what I'm saying.

After leaving school I served 4 years in the Royal Navy. A few months after enlisting I was foolish enough to be 55 seconds late for my watch. Big mistake! Huge!!
I was confronted by an irrate Chief Petty Officer who was purple in the face with rage. He stood so close to me that the peak of his cap was tapping on the bridge of my nose as he bellowed in a full-throated roar:
Her Majesty's ships do not wait for you, Boy!

You're probably aware of the scene in 'An Officer and a Gentleman' where Richard Gere spends the whole weekend on his hands and knees cleaning toilet floors with a tooth brush. Well, believe it! That kind of thing happens. My own punishment was to spend 4 hours on my hands and knees cleaning deck plates in the engine room with a wire brush, in my own time and unpaid. I was only 55 seconds late! but I never did it again.

Being late is a state of mind and you are choosing to do it. Give it up. Choose to be early instead. It can be done!
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partialtone



Joined: 09 May 2007
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a good story Jonny.

There isn't a fine line between a good and bad employee. You show up on time and do the job, you're a good employee. You show up habitually late or hung over and you're a bad employee. Honestly, not to pick on the OP at all, but reading some of the questions and stories on this board (and having f-up friends) makes me wonder how some people get jobs at all.
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Alberta605



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All these harsh financial penalties are just another indicator of what a grinding sweatshop NOVA is. I suppose some credit can be given to the job-design dept at NOVA for at least being aware of the potential for very dubious quality among their employees or negative reactions to the routines at NOVA by the slightly better ones.

On the other hand an enlightened company would know that money doesn't motivate in either direction but to even suggest that NOVA should present a package that actually does motivate would mean that we had just stopped talking about NOVA.

Really, I can understand a NOVA employee being unprofessional (lates, complaints etc). It would be my guess that a pretty high percentage of NOVA-ites aren't exactly the paragon of virtue.

I hear that NOVA is in an increasingly deep financial hole. They work like a desparate debt-ridden university student who takes on 4 or 5 credit cards and transfers his balances between them in an effort to avoid paying them off. You just can't stay ahead of the axe forever like that.
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Alberta605



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

partialtone wrote:
...makes me wonder how some people get jobs at all.


I was wondering just the same thing the other day at the gym. Some youngish guy, who bore a stunning resemblence to Napolean Dynamite, walked in with what looked like a weakness all the way down one side of his body. His head was bent to the side like he'd super-glued it to his shoulder. His warm-up was pretty weak stuff, ponderously slow arm circling followed by some totally freaky knee massaging. Anyway, you probably get the idea by now, so I won't try to describe his performance in the loose weights section.
With the best will in the world, i really couldn't see why anyone would let this one out of the attic let alone give him a job.
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Apsara



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You mean you think his physical handicap makes him completely unemployable? Just as an English teacher or in general?

I don't know Napoleon Dynamite I'm afraid so I apologise if this reference makes the answers to my questions obvious.
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alexcase



Joined: 26 Jul 2007
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 5:43 pm    Post subject: OP Reply with quote

Can I ask what is probably a really dumb, beginner's question? What's an OP that people keep refering to?
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 9:20 pm    Post subject: Re: OP Reply with quote

alexcase wrote:
Can I ask what is probably a really dumb, beginner's question? What's an OP that people keep refering to?
Original post or original poster.
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