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workingnomad

Joined: 26 Sep 2005 Posts: 106 Location: SE Asia
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 1:56 pm Post subject: Is teaching English a job for..... |
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....people that have not been able to make it in their chosen career or who never had one on the first place?
Would be interested in peoples' opinions on this.
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william wallace
Joined: 14 May 2003 Posts: 2869 Location: in between
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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This field of ESL is so vast that of course it'd include those, as well as those who are post and pre-career. |
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miski
Joined: 04 Jul 2007 Posts: 298 Location: Kuwait
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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Always wanted to travel- I did ESL for 12 years- the hours were very unsociable. I made the transformation into mainstream school and it incorporates a bit of ESL with all subjects + the good hours and holidays. Definitely a career decision for me - although there is still an ' I want to be a lawyer' lurking in there somewhere.
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jwbhomer

Joined: 14 Dec 2003 Posts: 876 Location: CANADA
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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There do seem to be quite a few ex-lawyers. Making the transition from law (or at least courtroom law) to teaching is fairly easy -- a question of applying techniques of persuasion in a different way. But for Miski I'd say, making the transition from teaching to law might be a little more challenging.
On the whole I agree with WW. And I think the trend these days is to not regard any one career as permanent. So of course you get people who are moving forward, moving backward, or just dropping out. Nothing wrong with any of those things. |
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miski
Joined: 04 Jul 2007 Posts: 298 Location: Kuwait
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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Oh I was tempted to do Law and French at Birmingham about 24 years ago, but I'm way too old for that transition now! I just bang the hammer in class. |
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denise

Joined: 23 Apr 2003 Posts: 3419 Location: finally home-ish
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 6:34 pm Post subject: Re: Is teaching English a job for..... |
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workingnomad wrote: |
....people that have not been able to make it in their chosen career or who never had one on the first place?
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Is this a polite way of asking if we are all misfits or losers who can't hold down a job back home?
I chose this career because I liked it, and I still like it 8 years later. But then, since I've never had another career, I guess I have to answer "yes" to your question. I like to believe, though, that I made a conscious decision and didn't just fall into EFL because I couldn't do anything else.
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william wallace
Joined: 14 May 2003 Posts: 2869 Location: in between
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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Dear Miski (Warning: cliche to follow)Never too old; though infirmity,disability and sickness can put a damper on things.
Here's an inspiring story that might just reignite that spark,it certainly did for me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k08yxu57NA |
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medusa
Joined: 26 Nov 2005 Posts: 50 Location: France / India
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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WW, so you saw the Paul Potts clip too?
Thanks for sharing it with everyone else. I actually came across it on you tube after reading an article on the BBC website and it really made my day. I became so emotional while watching it and had shivers down my spine. Great stuff. Why show it on this thread?
It proves that sometimes, you can beat the odds and follow your dream career or just your dreams quite simply.
What if your dream IS to be an EFL teacher? |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 9:34 pm Post subject: Re: Is teaching English a job for..... |
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denise wrote: |
Is this a polite way of asking if we are all misfits or losers who can't hold down a job back home? |
I was wondering the same thing. Either that, or the OP has been working with a lot of such people and hasn't run into other types. |
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naturegirl321

Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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When I started uni, I enrolled as an English Teacher, however, due to constraints, ie, I wouldn't have been able to study in sister schools in California, Spain and Washington, I decided to study Art, my choice, and Business Management, my father's choice.
During uni, I got the chance to teach in Venezuela, China and Taiwan and knew that's what I really wanted to do.
I don't regret not majoring in Education becuase I never would have got the chance to travel. Five years later, I'm still enjoying it and am almost done with my MA in TEFL and plan on going for a DELTA as well. |
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Stephen Jones
Joined: 21 Feb 2003 Posts: 4124
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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Hi, miski. You have probably never seen a cookery program called "Two Fat Ladies" but one of the two became a barrister in her fifties before changing career again to become a cookery presenter. |
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GambateBingBangBOOM
Joined: 04 Nov 2003 Posts: 2021 Location: Japan
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 12:55 am Post subject: Re: Is teaching English a job for..... |
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workingnomad wrote: |
....people that have not been able to make it in their chosen career |
You're assuming that teaching English can not be someone's chosen career.
Anytime someone switches from one career to another (and if career books and councellors are to be believed, the average person has three seperate careers duing their work lives these days) then you could say that they couldn't cut it in the previous career.
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or who never had one on the first place? |
So if your first career is as a graphic artist, then you could say that being a graphic artist is something geared to people who've never had a career in the first place.
Or if it's something they are doing after having done something else (like if they were a copywriter before becoming an art diretor) you could say they couldn't cut it in the first occupation ("They must have just sucked at writing, or else why would they have switched to making visuals?"). |
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tedkarma

Joined: 17 May 2004 Posts: 1598 Location: The World is my Oyster
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:01 am Post subject: Re: Is teaching English a job for..... |
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workingnomad wrote: |
....people that have not been able to make it in their chosen career or who never had one on the first place?
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You would be quite surprised by the wide variety of people you will find working in TEFL. I have worked with quite a few people who were very successful in their prior occupations - and you might find this particularly true of older "TEFLers".
I've worked with successful businesspeople who sold their business, made a nice chunk of money and wanted to do something less stressful while also wanting to see a bit of the world - esp after they had worked years of 80-hour weeks - also with retired teachers, police officers, lawyers, corporate trainers and so on.
It is also relatively common to find people who decided they didn't like (not necessarily that they weren't successful) their chosen occupation. Again - not uncommon to meet lawyers who hated the business, corporate types who hated the sham of the business they were in, teachers who grew tired of discipline problems in Western schools and many more.
Add to the mix the people who just want to TEFL for a few years - and you have such a wide variety of people that you really can't make one general statement about all of us. |
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misterbrownpants
Joined: 04 Apr 2004 Posts: 70
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:46 am Post subject: |
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i decided to teach english mainly because it is good money down here - and good hours however i would still one day like to work in my field (international development) just haven't found the right thing yet.. |
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