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trapezius



Joined: 13 Aug 2006
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Location: Land of Culture of Death & Destruction

PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Can I join these tours or visit those places alone?


Depends on where you are from, and what your skin color is. Not joking.

I personally know that groups of white teachers go to the Wahba Crater, Madain Saleh (built by the same people who built Petra), Moon Mountain, etc.

And while I am friends with these people, and have been dying to join them, I have not done so yet. Problem is, they go in mixed groups, and they are all either British or Australian. I have brown skin, and a 3rd world country passport.

Would just be risky to join them as they go in mixed groups. Certainly better to be safe than sorry. If it was all men, sure, I could join them. Heck, in that group, there also 2 couples of bf/gf!!!! And they sleep in the same hotel rooms when they travel locally. They have been to Najran, Jazan, Madain Saleh, Riyadh, etc, and have stayed together in one room, but none of the hotel staff has ever asked for proof of marriage.

And that's only because they are white. Say I had a gf (whether white or brown, doesn't matter), and I joined that group with my gf, and tried to stay in the same room with her, I can put money down that the hotel staff would ask for proof of marriage. I know of cases like that.

Shows to go you how just this place is!!!
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scot47



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Given the recent murders of foreign visitors to Mdain Saleh I think it might be wiser not to consider this sort of tourism for a while.

Incidentally these foreign visitors were not a bunch of unbelievers running around in shorts - they were Francophone Muslims.

I for one will stay in my Saudi apartment. I had hoped to see the Wahbah Crater but will head for Shiraz (Persepolis) in Iran for a break. Or sit at home and listen to Bix Beiderbecke and Jimmie Rodgers. On 78rpm shellac of course.


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Bebsi



Joined: 07 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WW, what with your obviously rivetting adventures in Japan and your huge social involvement there, you would fit in very well with Brasscat and the Misharistas on their intrepid adventures around KSA. You will have no probs at all, just get into your summer gear, (t-shirt and shorts will be fine...careful with hot-pants tho) and head off. If for example, you became 'an item' with one of the boys, you would have no probs at all in hotel rooms.

Go for it, you will find KSA a fascinating experience with never a dull moment. Don't let negative people like those you find in this forum destroy your dreams and idylls.

Regarding books, I'm writing something to tie in with Girls of Riyadh. It's called Boys of Bahrain. It tells stories of Bacchanalian boisterousness, drunken debauchery and iniquitous incursions into island life. Of course, because of the nature of the tome's controversial contents, I am being chased by people all over the world - various religious fundamentalists, Mossad, the CIA, the Russian mafia, the regular mafia, the Medellin Cartel, MI6, Hamas, the Syrians, Hizbollah, the Mongolians, the Fijiians (DK why those last two) and last but not least, FIBB (Federation of Independent Businessladies of Bahrain). I am currently in hiding, and copies may be hard to get so place your orders now.
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brasscat



Joined: 22 Jan 2007
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 1:27 pm    Post subject: Common sense & Getting around Reply with quote

The one thing I learned very early on in KSA is: respect others and be respected in turn.

I was safer in a Bedu tent in the Al Nufud Desert than I was walking down the streets of my own home town. The hospitality and total repect was very impressive. Just sitting with the clan leader sipping fresh hot Arab coffee while talking of life the desert is worth any effort.

The Misharistas came together and chose to be unbored, all it took was a local travel agent and a company specializing in weekend trips. Totally cheap to boot.

For simple shopping fun go to the Arab open air kiosks instead of grocery stores. Major fun here.
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