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JZer
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| If you can get a decent college level job in Oman or someplace similar though - it might be preferable to some language schools in Korea. But - if you can land a public school job in Korea - that would probably be the way to go. |
A word to the wise. A lot of public school jobs that are advertised on here do not pay well. Often a recruiter is the one doing the work and takes a cut and lowers your wages. If you apply dirrectly to some school boards then you can get a higher salary. I looked into a job in Chunchangnamdo and they were paying $2400 for straight BA's and $2700 for BEd. Once you are in South Korea look for better deals. One can even get a university job with a B.A. in South Korea. |
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JZer
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| Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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| You might also look into Vietnam. Some schools are paying $19 to $20 an hour. I think that is good money in Vietnam. I have not been to Vietnam but would look into a job there. |
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naturegirl321
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| Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks for the info. SK is starting to look better and better money wise. We went looking for houses today here in Peru and they're about double what we expected. It'll take us forever to save up here. I think that I can put up with a year there if it means saving 20K. |
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JZer
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| Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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naturegirl321,
Do you think that you can save $20,000 in one year with a husband?
12 months times $1000=$12,000 + plus pension refund+severance pay=$16,000 |
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naturegirl321
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| Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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| I thought you could save 2K a month.? |
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tedkarma
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| Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 1:36 am Post subject: |
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| One can even get a university job with a B.A. in South Korea. |
But - these are exceptions.
Most universities (if not all) are looking MA/M.Ed. folks if they can get them.
I worked at a university (job before the last one) where they fired the BA people because they were finally able to find people with graduate degrees - even though one had worked there for several years.
Someone with a BA/BS shouldn't head to Korea expecting that they will find a good university job. I won't say it hasn't happened, but it would be quite unusual. And, if offered such a post, should try to figure why it wasn't offered to and accepted by a better qualified person. |
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JZer
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| Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 2:09 am Post subject: |
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But - these are exceptions.
Most universities (if not all) are looking MA/M.Ed. folks if they can get them. |
Well, in my experience some rural communities have a difficult time finding someone with an M.A.
Sometimes those jobs are better. Tedkarma, I don't want to argue but it seems that there are a decent number of Korea professors that just hire people based on looks. They would rather hire a skinny person with a B.A. over a fat person with an M.A. Yes, serious universities don't do this but I think that most would agree that university standards in Korea are a far cry from those of the west.
Tedkarma, do you know about the Korean university art professor who recently got busted for claiming to have a PhD from Yale that she never earned? |
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naturegirl321
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| Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 2:16 am Post subject: |
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| Sigh. I'm getting itchy feet and want to leave Peru, but it's super difficult for us. We save decently here, but are working way too much and all the other places I look at won't get my husband a legal visa, so he'd be stuck doing nothing. Wish there was some way out of Peru and towards Asia or Europe. |
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mikesspamlessemail
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| Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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| naturegirl321 wrote: |
| Sigh. I'm getting itchy feet and want to leave Peru, but it's super difficult for us. We save decently here, but are working way too much and all the other places I look at won't get my husband a legal visa, so he'd be stuck doing nothing. Wish there was some way out of Peru and towards Asia or Europe. |
I may well be joining you. Just found out I will not be getting an offer from the law firm I summered at. I will be coming out next year with $600 a month in student loan payments (for the next 30 years). So I need to start saving at least 1K a month so I can pay them down and not just make the payment. Good luck to both of us- I think my choice will be Korea even though it will be lonely- trying to get my roommate who also got dinged by a law firm to go with me... |
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naturegirl321
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| Well, Korea might work for you. Not for me. It would either mean leaving my husband behind, or having him come with me but he wouldn't be able to work. The ME might be a good option for you. Or Taiwan. I guess we're doing ok in Peru, but I wish we could save more, at the rate we're going, it'll take us two more years to buy a house , and then we want to have a wedding, and then save up to leave Peru, who knows how long that'll take? |
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tedkarma
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| Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Well, Korea might work for you. Not for me. It would either mean leaving my husband behind, or having him come with me but he wouldn't be able to work. The ME might be a good option for you. Or Taiwan. I guess we're doing ok in Peru, but I wish we could save more, at the rate we're going, it'll take us two more years to buy a house , and then we want to have a wedding, and then save up to leave Peru, who knows how long that'll take? |
Naturegirl - does your husband have any qualifications? Sorry if I missed that. Some universities, such as Pusan University of Foreign Studies - hire Spanish teachers - but, again, a minimum would be a BA/BS.
Mike - you might be surprised (or maybe not!) by the number of former-lawyer ESL teachers there are out here. Typically people who became disenfranchised by the work - or just plain hated it. I worked with at least two and have met a couple others. IF you can introduce the idea of a law degree as a graduate degree - you'll find good university work - particularly approach the LAW departments of various universities. (not all countries consider it a grad degree for some reason - though I certainly would)
To the best of my understanding - Korea, a couple years ago (at the university where I was teaching) was changing to a US-style law degree. Prior to that it had been a four-year degree, not post-grad as it is in the States. Considered quite a prestigious degree there. Don't limit your thinking to language/public schools. |
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naturegirl321
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| Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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| no degree, but he'll be taking an Oracle and CISCO cert tests soon. SO guess we're out of luck. |
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tedkarma
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| Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 12:53 am Post subject: |
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| no degree, but he'll be taking an Oracle and CISCO cert tests soon. SO guess we're out of luck. |
There are, in Asia, a hoard of people skilled in these areas - partly why America imports so many of these people AND why these countries are developing so quickly.
These skills may provide him with opportunity OR he might find himself competing with local people with similar skills.
One thing to look at - IF he has good web skills - he may be able to sell them on the Internet. There are quite a few people who look for people to help them with their Internet enterprises. I am one of them.
Some larger Internet companies need a good number of people to do their "grunt work" - take a look at companies like: My Man in India or Brickwork as examples. He may well be able to work from home - doing things for people in other parts of the world AND the country in which you work/live would have no knowledge of this. He could easily be paid, for example, into your PayPal account or an account in a third country.
PM me if he might be interested in a little bit of "starter" type work. (This is not a job ADVERT!) |
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Joeys ESL Room
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| Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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My advice would be to consider all of your options - not just money - when you are considering where to go. You might be able to make a lot of money in the Middle East for example, but you won't necessarily enjoy your life there if you are one to explore and go out on the town, so to speak. Korea in my opinion is the best placeto make a lot of money while living a pretty care free life. A lot of people make their money on private teaching which could double your monthly income, but this can be dangerous.
At the end of the day, you have to ask yourself if making a few thousand dollars in a year is worth going somewhere you know you won't like.
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Teejay
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| Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 10:24 am Post subject: |
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| IMHO, if you have more money, you can enjoy life. That's why we seek for a higher-income. |
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