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Mohammad
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I am currently working for Manarat Al Sharkia, I received my Iqama within two weeks of submitting my paper work.
BTW, it's not as bad as what some people make it out to be. Some teachers have had bad experiences, and others have had positive experiences.
AbdulRahman, please pm me if you need further information. |
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scot47
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| Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Where I work in KSA it is common for the family to travel with the husband when he comes out to join us. No waiting. |
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Stephen Jones
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Mohammad
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| Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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Bebsi
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| Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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| A woman who is coming under a work visa may be able to bring her husband with her as "mahram", since there are other rules that apply in this case. But it is well neigh impossible for any man to have visas issued to his dependents if he does not have an iqama. |
This is, in fact untrue. Some employers allow you to apply for entry visas for the family as well as yourself, when coming out initially. KFUPM is a case in point. Many teachers there arrive in KSA with wife and kids in tow.
It's really down to the employer. I suspect it has more to do with probation: they may want to see that you have a reasonable chance of lasting the contract before incurring the extra expense of bringing the spouse and children out.
I'm surmising here, I'm not sure why it differs, but it does. |
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ootii
Joined: 27 Oct 2005
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Location: Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
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| Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 6:20 am Post subject: |
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| This is, in fact untrue. Some employers allow you to apply for entry visas for the family as well as yourself, when coming out initially. |
Yes. I have heard that this is possible with government contracts. People coming to work for public organizations might insist more vigorously.
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| KFUPM is a case in point. Many teachers there arrive in KSA with wife and kids in tow. |
And then we had the Royal Commission reportedly bringing people in from Bahrain by the bus load, on visitors' visas. What was that about?
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| It's really down to the employer. I suspect it has more to do with probation: they may want to see that you have a reasonable chance of lasting the contract before incurring the extra expense of bringing the spouse and children out. |
I doubt that seriously. The fact that dependents are not under the sponsorship of an employer, but rather of a legal resident does explain this situation pretty well.
And then, of course, there is always a lot of confusion about regulations and procedures, given the contradictory advice and practice of officials at just about every level. Precedent is no indication of future action, and just because one person did such and such and got a visa, doesn't mean it will work for you. |
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Bebsi
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| I doubt that seriously. The fact that dependents are not under the sponsorship of an employer, but rather of a legal resident does explain this situation pretty well. |
Yes, Ootii, but the employer is thinking about cost, nothing to do with responsibility as sponsor.
Imagine the extra expanse if you pay for an employee's family...fares, visas, and a change to married accom...all to discver that at the end of the probationary period, you really don't want him anyway. Alternatively, he himself may up and leave during the probation...with wife and family in tow.
Basically, the employer, I strongly suspect, wants to know that all is reasonably OK before incurring the costs of family relocation.
I can, in all fairness to employers, see exactly where they are coming from. |
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canadashirleyblue
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If I remember correctly most of the complaints about Manarat centered around the contract not being honoured. Or extra stuff being added that wasn't in the contract. Or things not being the way they were told they would be. Basically people seemed to feel that they had been deceived.
So in this case - where our poster thought his family would come with him and then it wasn't going to happen - I would think it fits the pattern.
I actually applied to work at this school but dropped the application when I got another position. They were looking for staff because many were leaving. I have seen from the posts that the same situation applied last year. So this is probably a school that has a large staff turnover every year.
I think the poster made a wise choice in deciding against Manarat. I gather there are a small number of people who are happy there. Why risk the chance that you might not be one of them. It is not easy to do a runner from Saudi and take your whole family with you. |
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