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taikibansei
Joined: 14 Sep 2004
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| ironopolis wrote: |
Or surely it could also be quite possible that they do exist and have willingly allowed their names to be used, just that the other spouse still has no idea of what is going on. |
The site below has been posted here before. It gives examples of this, and worse....
http://www.crnjapan.com/en/
A timely reminder of just how crazy this country can be....  |
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taikibansei
Joined: 14 Sep 2004
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| Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:24 am Post subject: |
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| Odango wrote: |
Looks like PR would be the way to go.
Unfortunately I got the job due to having the spouse visa.
As far as qualifications go I only have a CELTA for teaching and job getting skills. |
Without a university degree, PR is your best bet for long-term security here.
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If anyone thinks it would be possible for me to obtain PR with these details:
Got married in June 2002, lived in Japan for just about 3 years. Then moved back to the UK for two years with wife. Then came back to Japan in 2006 September, making it exactly one more year spent here. |
Again, you should have no problem getting PR...if your wife supports your application by submitting the koseki. Indeed, you'd probably get PR in about 6 weeks.
Without her support, however, I seriously doubt you'd receive PR. The guidelines I've posted so far suggest no, the experience of my friends/colleagues suggest no, and a recent discussion I had with immigration here (regarding a colleague's pending application) suggests no. Can you negotiate her support? She'd just have to help you with the application, nothing more.
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| To be honest my head is spinning and I'm not sure what's going on in my life at the moment. From next week I will be heading back to the UK for a month or so to clear my head. At this point I still have the spouse visa and the signed divorce paper hasn't been handed in. |
You know, I almost never give direct advice on these web sites because, well, we're all adults here. However, this just seems like a really bad idea to me. I mean, what's going to happen to your job in the month or so that you're gone? What will your wife do? E.g., are things so bad that she's likely to file for divorce during your absence?
At the very least, see if you can get the paperwork for PR started before you go! |
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markle
Joined: 17 Jan 2003
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Location: Out of Japan
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| Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:36 am Post subject: |
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| taikibansei wrote: |
| You know, I almost never give direct advice on these web sites because, well, we're all adults here. However, this just seems like a really bad idea to me. I mean, what's going to happen to your job in the month or so that you're gone? What will your wife do? E.g., are things so bad that she's likely to file for divorce during your absence? |
I have to agree with Taiki here. That month could sink any chances of getting things back on track. Alternatively, if you want to get away from it all, as it were, then go hiking or hit the beach, just don't leave the country. The only way I can see going home for a month as beneficial is if you made it a permanent move.
Anyhow chin up and I hope things get better for you. |
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Odango
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
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Thanks again...
I've managed to get compassionate leave from my eikaiwa for awhile.
Where do I apply for PR and how? Is it from one of those links mentioned?
I could have a problem getting the wife at this moment in time to help me though.... |
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Glenski
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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fat_chris
Joined: 10 Sep 2003
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Location: Beijing
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| Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 1:57 pm Post subject: Marriage |
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That's it. I'm staying single and making a personal pact to re-commit myself to bachelorhood. This sounds like a huge nightmare that I would never want to go through. I apologize if I sound a bit harsh.
Best of luck to ya, Odango, and keep keepin' on.
Regards,
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southofreality
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
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Location: Tokyo
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| Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 3:04 pm Post subject: Re: Marriage |
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| fat_chris wrote: |
| That's it. I'm staying single and making a personal pact to re-commit myself to bachelorhood. This sounds like a huge nightmare that I would never want to go through. I apologize if I sound a bit harsh. |
I like where your head's at. |
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nomadder
Joined: 15 Feb 2003
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6810
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| Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 5:05 am Post subject: |
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| nomadder wrote: |
| Goodo! Funny how too long overseas can mess with your head. Here at home there are more and more Asians and now they just look like these small, foolish, clued out, superficial and fake people to me. I need more depth, originality and realness. Much, much more. |
So start reading self-help books. |
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Odango
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
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I leave Japan wednesday morning to the UK.
I feel absolutely gutted but don't know what else to do.
Apparently she can't hand in the divorce paper without my passport.
Does anyone know if this is true?
Since I'll have my passport with me she can't divorce me behind my back. |
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markle
Joined: 17 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 6:39 am Post subject: |
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| nomadder wrote: |
| I need more depth, originality and realness. Much, much more. |
All that and a personality transplant. |
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taikibansei
Joined: 14 Sep 2004
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| Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 9:13 am Post subject: |
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| Odango wrote: |
Apparently she can't hand in the divorce paper without my passport.
Does anyone know if this is true?
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 Look, you need to do two things now. First, read the links everyone has provided you. Second, contact your local city hall if you have further questions. None of us are lawyers here--e.g., my understanding is that a copy of the passport is NOT needed to file the form. However, depending on your prefecture and even your city of residence, there may be different rules (or interpretations of the rules) in place where you are. Furthermore, as the English-language link I included above delineates clearly, there is paperwork you can file to prevent her filing divorce papers for up to (I believe) six months. If you're worried about things, take advantage of this law and file the darn paperwork. Apparently, you can even renew this block if you want!
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| Here at home there are more and more Asians and now they just look like these small, foolish, clued out, superficial and fake people to me. |
Yeah, thank goodness we don't have superficiality, ignorance, prejudice, and divorce in the West (or at least didn't until those darn "Asians" came and ruined everything...).
Where's Canuck when we need him? |
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Vince
Joined: 05 May 2003
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| taikibansei wrote: |
| if you've been married to a Japanese national over three years, lived together at least two years overseas and lived together in Japan at least one year, then you also can qualify. |
That's great news for me. I thought the five-year clock would start from the beginning when I return to Japan, but according to the exception above I should be able to apply for PR right away.
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| I leave Japan wednesday morning to the UK. |
I agree that leaving the country while things are so tenuous is quite risky. |
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gaijinalways
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| I know it may be a case by case thing, but has anyone obtained PR with that or less? |
Actually, I seem to remember that I applied for permanent residency after only 1.5 years of residency and a few months of marriage. It took maybe 2 months to get it.
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| leave Japan wednesday morning to the UK. |
I also agree that leaving the country while things are so tenuous is quite risky. You should make sure you put some paperwork in before leaving, but a better option would maybe taking a shorter trip, preferably in Japan. |
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Gordon
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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| At least where I live, PR is not normally given until you've lived in Japan for 10 years. Every foreigner I know who has applied is told to come back after the 10 year mark. |
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