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naturegirl321
Joined: 04 May 2003
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 Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2003 11:04 am Post subject: New job requirements? |
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I've been in China almost a year and recently changed jobs. So now I have to go through the lovely work visa process again .ugh! I was just informed by my boss that there would be some difficulty because I have less than two years teaching experience.
Is this a new law?
I've got a degree, and TEFL Diploma. |
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Jen2003
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| Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2003 11:10 am Post subject: |
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He's being dishonest with you or just doesn't know what to do.
Jen |
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naturegirl321
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| Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2003 11:25 am Post subject: |
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| Yeah, I thought so. I think the thing is I changed jobs and still have time left on my previous visa. Anyways, the person is a foreigner, a Singaporean, but still into the Chinese lies. |
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struelle
Joined: 16 May 2003
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Location: Shanghai
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| Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2003 1:47 pm Post subject: Re: New job requirements? |
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I was just informed by my boss that there would be some difficulty because I have less than two years teaching experience.
Is this a new law? |
You know, I'm beginning to wonder about this. At this point, I've only heard rumors, but they all converge on the Chinese government increasing the requirements to get the Z-visa and red book.
Some say, like your boss, "You need 2 years teaching experience."
My boss said, "You need 2 years experience, and a qualification."
Colleagues have said, "The governments is thinking about requiring TEFL certs in future."
Others have said, "As of now, you need a TEFL cert"
I have no definite information, but I'm scrounging around to find some. At any rate, I'm thankful that I got my CELTA.
Steve |
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MonkeyKing
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Location: Beijing
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| Hmmm...this is interesting...but then again, officially, you do need a degree to teach here at the moment, but just about any school can find a way around that little problem. However, if it did happen, what would be the result? Would salaries jump, or would schools simply go without their pet laowai? |
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struelle
Joined: 16 May 2003
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Location: Shanghai
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| Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 2:59 am Post subject: |
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| Hmmm...this is interesting...but then again, officially, you do need a degree to teach here at the moment, but just about any school can find a way around that little problem. However, if it did happen, what would be the result? Would salaries jump, or would schools simply go without their pet laowai? |
*If* (and that's the key word here) the government insisted on TEFL, maybe even experience, as well as a BA, several things may happen.
First is that it would screen out the newbie teachers and they would either seek jobs elsewhere or, better yet, go for a certificate course. Arguably, teaching quality would improve for the schools that hired the qualified teachers under supposedly new regulations.
But this increased teaching quality would benefit the upper crusts of society and the 'common people' would lose out. I work for a 'key school' in Shanghai and they are adamant on qualifications and experience. I have these, so it's no problem. But honestly, the job doesn't make good use out of those. In theory, I could have easily entered this job with no training and figured it out as I went along.
On a larger scale, what may happen is this: the salary, working conditions, professional development, schedules, and other factors that go into teaching won't measure up to the demands that qualified teachers have. If the government wants more qualified teachers, then they progressively work towards higher pay and improved working conditions for both locals and laowai. Simple as that.
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Mister Ed
Joined: 13 Oct 2003
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Exactly, Struelle. The downside is that some teachers who have qualifications and experience are still lousy, and many who don't have them are very good.
Add to this those who have lost the spark, and its a real conundrum. |
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