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tw
Joined: 04 Jun 2005 Posts: 3898
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Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 12:25 am Post subject: |
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KevinT123 wrote: |
As I do with some of the questions I am asked by Chinese students like "Are there many people in England that can speak English?" or "Why do you always teach us things that we don't know?". |
That would be just plain stupidity. |
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vikuk

Joined: 23 May 2007 Posts: 1842
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Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 1:14 am Post subject: |
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haha reminds me of when i asked the class if you were leader of china for a day what would you do. there were 15 students. 1 said attack taiwan, 1 said attack japan, and 1 said attack japan and taiwan. |
After observing the vigor and vitality of the typical Chinese student - you can be pretty sure not so many of these "brave" young folk will be volunteering to do the attacking.
No the front line is left to that same class of folk who also - hammer all day long on concrete with their hammers (the national sound of China), collect empty bottles, look after parked bikes, etc etc - the cheap countryside worker. (Did you know the lowest rank Chinese squaddy/grunt is paid no wage (the cannon fodder) - but just gets free food - and the chance of getting paid employment with a state company after they leave the service. A few months ago the food allowance went up so they could get fresh eggs twice week instead of once. Such is the poverty in some provinces that many want to volunteer for the PLA.)
I believe our students would wish to mirror the likely actions of the more affluent parts of this "brave" population - that of jumping into their cars - which they'll drive a breakneck speed in full retreat from any form of danger or indeed situations that interrupt their computer game playing. TV watching or sleeping.
Sorry about this stupid post � but sometimes you hear so much stupid stuff here (last night I was told how the new Trans-Tibet railway would be vital in defending Tibet from invasion from a foreign power) � if often does you a power of good to write �em!!!!! |
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SnoopBot
Joined: 21 Jun 2007 Posts: 740 Location: USA
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 1:52 am Post subject: |
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These are typical responses for Middle-School students trying to be funny.
They are not taking the whole situation seriously and making a joke about it.
This is the typical responses you will get from a Sunday English cram job when the kids rather be doing something fun instead of learning English. Often, because their parents told them they must go. |
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vikuk

Joined: 23 May 2007 Posts: 1842
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 2:28 am Post subject: |
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This is the typical responses you will get from a Sunday English cram job when the kids rather be doing something fun instead of learning English. Often, because their parents told them they must go. |
Quite agree with this - always something behind these strange viewpoints - boredom, insecurity and a common feeling of shame with regard to certain events in Chinese history.
But in a real-world perspective - could you see the new generation of waddling, porky, energy bleached little emperors leading a world invasion.
And even if they made their army up of the countryside folk - all you have to do is fill a bomb full of 5 mao notes and drop it 5kms behind the front line - within 30 seconds the army would be in full retreat and killing each other in there more important quest of getting 5 mao richer!!!!
National pride in China seems to be dwarfed by personal agenda - but its always good to shout up China if a Laowai is around. |
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Ping Jing

Joined: 29 Jan 2007 Posts: 112 Location: In a peaceful state of mind.
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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Vikuk typed - \\\"No the front line is left to that same class of folk who also - hammer all day long on concrete with their hammers (the national sound of China), collect empty bottles, look after parked bikes, etc etc - the cheap countryside worker. (Did you know the lowest rank Chinese squaddy/grunt is paid no wage (the cannon fodder) - but just gets free food - and the chance of getting paid employment with a state company after they leave the service. A few months ago the food allowance went up so they could get fresh eggs twice week instead of once. Such is the poverty in some provinces that many want to volunteer for the PLA.) \\\"
Beautiful. Now I know why the security guards scowl at me.
God Bless. |
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SnoopBot
Joined: 21 Jun 2007 Posts: 740 Location: USA
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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Slightly off OP, but speaking of the PLA, massive riots have been popping up around major cities involving down-sized former PLA soldiers.
http://www.wtopnews.com/?nid=105&sid=1244691
I'm sure these links are blocked in China. |
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therock

Joined: 31 Jul 2005 Posts: 1266 Location: China
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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SnoopBot wrote: |
Slightly off OP, but speaking of the PLA, massive riots have been popping up around major cities involving down-sized former PLA soldiers.
http://www.wtopnews.com/?nid=105&sid=1244691
I'm sure these links are blocked in China. |
I read about these riots last week. I wonder if there has been more than one incident.  |
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SnoopBot
Joined: 21 Jun 2007 Posts: 740 Location: USA
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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therock wrote: |
SnoopBot wrote: |
Slightly off OP, but speaking of the PLA, massive riots have been popping up around major cities involving down-sized former PLA soldiers.
http://www.wtopnews.com/?nid=105&sid=1244691
I'm sure these links are blocked in China. |
I read about these riots last week. I wonder if there has been more than one incident.  |
I guess they have had several at different locations at different times. It seems to have spread or is spreading.
Not a good situation as those in the army help keep the government in power. |
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vikuk

Joined: 23 May 2007 Posts: 1842
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Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 2:22 am Post subject: |
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This is also not a well know fact for non-Chinese - but well advertised within the country -
The no.1 duty of the army is to defend the CPC (the party) and its right to rule the country!!!!!
They put this up on TV screens on those military Channels - during those propaganda interludes where they show battleships/jet fighters/ and goose-stepping grunts. |
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arioch36
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Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 2:34 am Post subject: |
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I think it was at Dave's that someone posted some really good articles on the miltary movements during Tianmen masacre, and who was fighting you.
I will have you know, our city of Zhengzhou (That's in Henan, BTW) was the first to get the special 500 man paramiltary squadrons to be used in assisting local police with such unruly local displays against the Chinese Harmonious Society |
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SnoopBot
Joined: 21 Jun 2007 Posts: 740 Location: USA
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Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 4:34 am Post subject: |
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Here is the latest, sorry to be off OP I only post this as many of you in China cannot read these things.
It seems to have been happening all over at different places and times.
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------------Sep 14, 6:13 AM EDT
Demobilized Soldiers Riot in China
By CHRISTOPHER BODEEN
Associated Press Writer
BEIJING (AP) -- Demobilized soldiers rioted at a retraining center in northeastern China overnight, the latest in a series of apparently coordinated protests against living conditions, a teacher and a human rights monitoring group said Friday.
About 1,000 ex-soldiers began smashing up classrooms and dormitories at the Qiqihar Railway Institute late Thursday night using beer bottles, the Hong Kong-based Information Center for Human Rights and Democracy said.
It said they then attempted to break out of the school, heading for the city train station, but were blocked by police and armed special forces. The clashes intensified when additional demobilized soldiers flocked to the school after hearing a rumor that two ex-soldiers had been killed, the center said in a statement.
In all, at least 10 people were injured and five arrested, it said, without identifying the injured as rioters or police. A teacher at the school who gave only his surname, Wang, confirmed the clashes had occurred, but said the situation was now calm and classes had resumed.
However, Wang said all the demobilized soldiers had been removed from campus, confirming the Hong Kong center's claim that all 6,000 demobilized soldiers recently placed at railway institutes in several cities had been ordered to return to their homes.
"All the retired soldiers are gone," Wang told The Associated Press by phone from the school, 650 miles northeast of Beijing.
The violence comes just over one week after about 2,000 demobilized Chinese soldiers rioted at training centers in at least three cities.
The reported protests, which authorities refused to confirm, were notable for their level of coordination, something not seen on a nationwide scale since the 1989 pro-democracy demonstrations in Beijing and several other cities.
Ex-troops were angered by run-down dormitories, bad but expensive food and a lack of study materials, according to the center and Internet reports.
China has been steadily cutting the size of its 2.3 million-member armed forces, but many of those demobilized have reportedly struggled to find jobs.
About 560,000 officers and men were due to be retired from the service this year, with panicked servicemen paying large bribes to obtain jobs in the more developed cities for fear of being sent back to their hometowns, the Hong Kong center said. |
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