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Does anyone REALLY wanna learn the King's English???
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TheLongWayHome



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil_K wrote:
Let me just set the record straight - I thought it was just Mexicans who don't get this: Mad

UK has 4 countries

England
Scotland
Northern Ireland
WALES (why does everyone forget Wales?)

To say IRELAND usually refers to the Republic of Ireland (Eire) which is just that - not part of the UK.

Here endeth the geography lesson.

I have (university) students that think Africa is off the coast of England, that Mexico is the biggest country in the world, that England is bigger than Canada etc.

Many students here also refer to the UK or England as London to the point where they assume any English person is from London. Geography is not a Mexican strong point.
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guty



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil,

Im afraid your geography lesson hasnteth ended yet,
Using UK and Ireland together is generally accepted as covering the British Isles in its entirety, i.e. both parts of the island of Ireland.

Also, whether the constituent parts of the UK can be considered as countries is debatable.

Its only Melee's school which has forgotten Wales!
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reddevil79



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[Im afraid your geography lesson hasnteth ended yet,
Using UK and Ireland together is generally accepted as covering the British Isles in its entirety, i.e. both parts of the island of Ireland.]

I am not sure how many Irish would agree with that Wink
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Phil_K



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

guty wrote:
Phil,

Im afraid your geography lesson hasnteth ended yet,
Using UK and Ireland together is generally accepted as covering the British Isles in its entirety, i.e. both parts of the island of Ireland.

Also, whether the constituent parts of the UK can be considered as countries is debatable.

Its only Melee's school which has forgotten Wales!


That's why I teach it in three parts, emphasising the correct terminology.

1) British Isles - all the islands and including Eire.
2) Great Britain - "great" referring to the greater or bigger island i.e. England, Scotland & Wales
3) UK - The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland - for political reasons.

BTW - why do Mexicans insiste on "La Reina Isabel de Inglaterra (sic) (should be GB), when Elizabeth is common enough in Spanish names?
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MELEE



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

guty wrote:


Its only Melee's school which has forgotten Wales!


We haven't forgotten, just never had many Welsh applicants. I can recall only one out of thousands and thousands.
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GueroPaz



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Melee, I think now I've met two Welsh EFL teachers, and I was glad to hear them speak standard English, more clearly than the average natives of Ireland.

I finally got Spanish installed on my keyboard; can we find an excuse to say ma�ana, prob� y �demas_ ooops, no I can{t find the question mark !))(�]($%M;:_]�]?�? there it is.
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corporatehuman



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can never find the question marks, I always forget where they are. I wish I could change the little symbols on the keys themselves. I spend a lot of time trying to find my punctuation.
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GueroPaz



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are there sticky dots that we can post on a standard keyboard, showing the proper signs like punctuation marks? Couldn't you make your own dots and stick them on your PC keyboard?
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