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tbawaken



Joined: 17 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 11:01 pm    Post subject: Awww Crap! Reply with quote

Hello everyone!

So, I went to the Nova preliminary interview and got the job pending the results of a background check. I haven't commited any felony's that I'm aware of so as far as that's concerned I'm in, no? Nervous excitement and anticipation abound! Then I find out about all this recent Nova nonsense and am suddenly filled with dread. Is this a sign I shouldn't go? Do I need to start the interview process over? Etc etc...
Could really use some insight/advice/encouragment/a high paying job right about now. I have no experience and am fairly flexible, but don't have the cash on hand to fly all over creation for interviews. Should I think China or Thailand right about now?

Thank you!
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jademonkey



Joined: 30 Mar 2007
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a tough one. I'd say go for it anyway. My logic (and this is informed by the fact that it doesn't affect me if I'm wrong) is that if they're still willing to hire you, then they still need staff. If they need staff, it means they still have customers, thus money, thus you'll get paid.
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Temujin



Joined: 14 Sep 2005
Posts: 90
Location: Osaka

PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NO! Until recently I would have said risk it if you had a plan B just in case, but Nova is finished now. Come over with a different company if at all.
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Quibby84



Joined: 10 Aug 2006
Posts: 643
Location: Japan

PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dont quit until you get your work visa and get to Japan...because once you are here the jobs are endless. So I would wait to see how bad it really is..if you want to come to Japan then come and see what happens, you can always find a new job.
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Apsara



Joined: 20 Sep 2005
Posts: 2142
Location: Tokyo, Japan

PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Up till about 10 days ago I also would have said come over with Nova originally and then look for a new job, but with what has developed in the last week I would definitely agree with Temujin. You are unlikely to ever see any pay from them, they are in absolute financial chaos and the chances of them pulling out of this are about zero.

They are still recruiting overseas bcause the overseas offices have little idea what is going on in Japan, or are choosing to ignore the obvious.

You could come over and interview here, although bear in mind that you would be competing with a lot of ex-Nova teachers who have already quit (hundreds in the last month or so) and those who will be out of work after the very likely scenario of the company collapsing completely in the near future.

China or Thailand, or Taiwan for example could be better options at the moment.
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chollimaspeed



Joined: 11 Sep 2007
Posts: 120

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quibby84 wrote:
Dont quit until you get your work visa and get to Japan...because once you are here the jobs are endless. So I would wait to see how bad it really is..if you want to come to Japan then come and see what happens, you can always find a new job.


Awful advice!

Jobs are neither literally nor figuratively endless here in Japan and if NOVA goes belly-up there will be a huge scramble for those positions. Do you really think that someone who has just turned up in the country, with no experience, teaching qualifications or contacts is going to be in the best position to take one of these "endless" job opportunities? Did you ever think about how much cash the OP is going to turn up in the country with? Did you ever think that the OP may work for up to six weeks expecting their first paypacket only to find the iron shutters down on their NOVA branch when they turn up for work? Did you ever think at all?
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chollimaspeed



Joined: 11 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jademonkey wrote:
This is a tough one. I'd say go for it anyway. My logic (and this is informed by the fact that it doesn't affect me if I'm wrong) is that if they're still willing to hire you, then they still need staff. If they need staff, it means they still have customers, thus money, thus you'll get paid.


This is not a tough one. The answer is "Don't come!" Not with NOVA anyway. Just because NOVA is making a desperate last roll of the dice to try and limp their way to December doesn't mean that they are making any cash at all. They have students, sure, but the students all pay up front and given the fact they have been unable to sell contracts they have no new revenue coming in. If they couldn't pay their teachers on time this month an they don't have any new cash coming in what makes you think they will be able to pay their teachers next month?
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AgentMulderUK



Joined: 22 Sep 2003
Posts: 360
Location: Concrete jungle (Tokyo)

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 12:49 am    Post subject: no way Reply with quote

Don't even think about it . Nova can't be replied upon to even complete the Visa application process at the moment..anything could happen in that 'waiting period'.

Talk to ECC,GEOS, Shane, etc. They are all better, relatively.
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Zzonkmiles



Joined: 05 Apr 2003
Posts: 309

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In a word: NO

Sorry. You would be much better off interviewing with AEON or ECC or some other school that recruits from abroad. Placing all your eggs in the NOVA basket would be very foolish at this point in time. Japan's not going anywhere. So if you wanna come over here, then be sure to do it the right way.
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Khyron



Joined: 10 Mar 2006
Posts: 291
Location: Tokyo Metro City

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 4:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm in agreement with the majority. To come to a completely different country where you'll need things like housing, possible a bit of money to get you started in case you have difficulty making a bank transfer or something (it DOES happen), etc., and then to work for a company that might not even be able to provide things things would be STUPID.

If you must come to Japan, come though a different company where you can at least have your housing and paycheck guaranteed.

Have you considered Korea? The pay is actually better than in Japan now.
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tbawaken



Joined: 17 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 10:50 pm    Post subject: Awesome! Reply with quote

Thank you all for your varied advice. I wasn't planning on making the trip till January so I think things will be sorted out one way or the other by then. Time for plan B!

...Thailand sounds lovely!
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