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TEAM_PAPUA
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You obviously haven't attended many dinners hosted by The British Council.
Salaries are poor for native speakers because of the inbalance between supply and demand.
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treacle
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| Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:16 am Post subject: |
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^ this is the reason teacher's salaries are so low. If doing a professional job makes you a Nazi, then Heil Hitler.
Not too sure I follow your train of thought here L - care to explain further? If being a devoted teacher is the reason salaries are so low for ESL 'tutors' (let's get the terminology right here) then perhaps it's time everyone calls the whole show off.
I rather suspect the reason that salaries are poor is because the general quality of recruiting to language schools is very much below par.
Heck I'm glad I'm outta that whole teaching biz. |
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Llamalicious
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| Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 8:47 am Post subject: |
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Sorry for the confusion. I was responding to this:
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| Plenty of people make large amounts of money in ESL as well as in EFL |
These people live to teach. TEFL Nazis are Cool! |
I inferred that T_P makes little money because he doesn't take his job seriously and in fact looks down his nose at anyone who does, branding them "TEFL Nazis."
Perhaps that was not his intent. If not, I apologise. I'm just sick of hearing language school teachers saying that they don't have a 'real job' and all they do is 'baby-sit.'
Maybe they do. I don't.
Ok. Rant over. I should have just invoked Godwin's law. |
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englishgibson
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| Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 4:45 am Post subject: |
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| ...I would have to be paid a huge amount of money ... |
i didn't know that was possible in the esl biz 
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You didn't? Plenty of people make large amounts of money in ESL as well as in EFL.*
The backpackers and TEFLers and CELTites probably don't. But the professionals definitely do -- even in China.
* Note to non-English gibson: Teaching English at an EF franchise in Indonesia is not ESL. |
since you've "adjusted" my user name, i must say that you are the virus of forums...you've entered all kinda threads with headings that you know lil about or provided lil on topics...at times, you've flamed others into locked or deleted threads....your folks must be so happy havin' ya ... keep it comin' on this one 
peace to the ones hiding behind their computers
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cheers and beers to the ones that will not choose the corrupt EF English First  |
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Henry_Cowell
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| Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 5:55 am Post subject: |
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| Sorry to have struck such a raw nerve, mate. |
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englishgibson
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| Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 2:19 am Post subject: |
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no, you're not 
keep strikin' whatever it is
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cheers and beers to "mates"
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TEAM_PAPUA
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| Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 10:58 pm Post subject: * |
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Clearly, you are not familiar with this term.
FYI I teach in a school. I do not 'instruct' in a language mill.
Good luck with the babysitting |
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Llamalicious
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| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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This thread has degenerated into a bit of slangin match but, well, it had EF in the title, so that's about par for the course.
Apologies if I got a bit prickly, T_P. Thankfully my language mill days are far behind me, too. I still think one should give one's best to one's students regardless of where one works though.
Mohon ma'af lahir dan batin.
Aaaarrrggghhh! I must have been bitten by a Ramadan zombie! Infected with goodwill! Must.... fight.... it.... Nooooooooooooooooooo |
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