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GueroPaz



Joined: 07 Sep 2007
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Location: Thailand or Mexico

PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I lived among foreigners in the US, and attended political rallies with more than a few prior to 11 Sept 2001, a few after then. As far as I know, unless recent legislation rescinded the Bill of Rights, all aliens in the USA, including illegals, have all the rights of citizens, except to vote or run for public office, or be a federal employee..

I think illegal Mexicans and others have the right to protest.
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geaaronson



Joined: 19 Apr 2005
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Location: Mexico City

PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 2:25 pm    Post subject: rights. Reply with quote

That was my understanding as well. And to qualify the federal employee status, it is also illegal for a non-citizen to be a member of the armed forces. The last is an interesting case in point as there have been several fatalities among armed personnel in Iraq who were non-citizens, so I suppose when it comes to dying for your country, the feds look the other way.
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Phil_K



Joined: 25 Jan 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Going back on topic, why can't you buy a bed in Mexico?
I mean a complete bed with mattress and headboard, not just a base, which you have to add a mattress - I'm sure that's how we used to buy beds in England.
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Guy Courchesne



Joined: 10 Mar 2003
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Location: Mexico City

PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The last is an interesting case in point as there have been several fatalities among armed personnel in Iraq who were non-citizens, so I suppose when it comes to dying for your country, the feds look the other way.


There is a program in place by which you can earn a green card if you serve in the armed forces for 2 years, or some other term.

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I mean a complete bed with mattress and headboard, not just a base, which you have to add a mattress - I'm sure that's how we used to buy beds in England.


You can. I did just such a thing at Sears (ok that's not exactly Mexican) two years ago.

Later edit: a reader corrected me in pointing out that it is citizenship a foreign born soldier earns, not a green card.


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MELEE



Joined: 22 Jan 2003
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Location: The Mexican Hinterland

PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can also buy all the parts together in Elektra and it's sister stores as well as various other places.

Back off topic,
In the US some states have passed laws to deny certain services to illegal immigrants, like driver's licenses and public health services. Other states have enacted laws to specifically prohibit education and health officials from asking immigrants their migratory status.
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GueroPaz



Joined: 07 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 1:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My comment about 'federal employees' meant civilian, not military. When I served in the US military long ago, we had aliens amongst us (a French Canadian, no less!!). But at the IRS, every employee had to be a citizen, and there were many naturalized employees, including a Transylvanian with an MA and a lingering Dracula accent (same home town!).

Trying hard to drag this back on topic, each country is entitled to restrict the activities of aliens, and Mexico has special reasons. The big Mexican bread company Bimbo bought Mrs. Baird's bakery from Texas, but doesn't want Big Oil owning Pemex. ....countless jokes about Mrs. Baird now being a Mexican bimbo.... Cool
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cangringo



Joined: 18 Jan 2007
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok I said I wouldn't post anymore but this is on topic and I couldn't resist....recently they have been repaving our streets here and they accidentally covered all the manholes...the solution was to send out crews of two men to find them and dig them out which in turn caused cracks and a lot of damage to the new paving. The solution to that is to fill in the holes with dirt and in some instance concrete...which means that the concrete will not settle and the asphalt will. So my point is, it's like they didn't repave at all at this point.

That one just makes us laugh.
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TheLongWayHome



Joined: 07 Jun 2006
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Location: San Luis Piojosi

PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil_K wrote:
Going back on topic, why can't you buy a bed in Mexico?
I mean a complete bed with mattress and headboard, not just a base, which you have to add a mattress - I'm sure that's how we used to buy beds in England.

There would be too many homeless colchoner�a owners?

Cangringo wrote:
Ok I said I wouldn't post anymore but this is on topic and I couldn't resist....recently they have been repaving our streets here and they accidentally covered all the manholes...the solution was to send out crews of two men to find them and dig them out which in turn caused cracks and a lot of damage to the new paving. Th