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Has anyone really gotten into trouble over a visa.......
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tw



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 2:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

englishgibson wrote:
i didn't know i needed an Foreign Expert Certificate to leave the country...i've done without it, and had no idea i could've got asked for it Embarassed


I didn't say you would be asked for it. What I said was I had thought I would be asked for it.
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englishgibson



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 3:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i see what'u mean

peace to ya
and
cheers and beers to all experts in china Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 3:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tw wrote:
englishgibson wrote:
i didn't know i needed an Foreign Expert Certificate to leave the country...i've done without it, and had no idea i could've got asked for it Embarassed


I didn't say you would be asked for it. What I said was I had thought I would be asked for it.


Never never asked for an FEC to exit..., whether I left via Bejing, Shenzhen, or Xiamen to Thailand.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what about the resident permit? are you asked for that when leaving?

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tw



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

xoxo32 wrote:
what about the resident permit? are you asked for that when leaving?


Of course -- it's in your passport anyway.

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and what if you leave before you get the resident permit, but your z visa just hasn't expired yet, what does the PSB do?


Once your passport is submitted to the PSB for the resident permit, the Z visa is automatically cancelled.
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jeffinflorida



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was working on an F visa ( no comments please...) and my company now gave me an RP in my passport and an FEC.

My F visa, good till Jan 2008 was marked "Canceled" on it.

My RP is multiple entires so no need for anything else.

For those that ask - a legitimate school / company can get your L / F visa turned into an RP - at least in this provance...
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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gnorance of the law comes in all shapes and sizes, from the "Gosh, I didn't know that!" to the "close my eyes and pretend I don't see it" to the "Everybody does it, who cares?" That doesn't change the fact that what you're doing (or thinking about) is illegal, that your prospective employers are willing to break the law, or that you will be at their mercy if and when something goes wrong. If you're comfortable in that situation, then fine.


The US Government certainly was when they bombed the shit out of Iraq but I guess thats pretty minor when compared to working 'illegally'.
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Leon Purvis



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

englishgibson wrote:
i didn't know i needed an Foreign Expert Certificate to leave the country...i've done without it, and had no idea i could've got asked for it Embarassed

cheers and beers to all experts that help the chinese education Smile


The FAO at my uni requires the FTs to turn in all of their documents (except their passports) before they leave. What's THAT about?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leon Purvis wrote:
The FAO at my uni requires the FTs to turn in all of their documents (except their passports) before they leave. What's THAT about?


Apparently, the education ministries/bureaus in some provinces do require having them returned when a FT is finished with his/her contract.
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arioch36



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The FEC does say quite specifically that it must be returned before leaving (I have a couple now). But then it also says we should use this as our identification in China. No one has yet pass the message along.

What other documents?
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james s



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have.
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SnoopBot



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes read my posting about the shakedown, the F visa guy was deported out within 2 days.

Some sort of shakedown is happening with a possibility of more to come. I am not sure if this will become a national policy yet but...

I wouldn't be surprised..
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jamesmollo



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:48 am    Post subject: visa Reply with quote

It looks like i'll be dismissed from my contract tomorrow (about 3 months into a one year contract) for medical reasons.Basically according to the doctor I can teach part-time but they have hired 2 other teachers in my absence. Will i lose my r.pf? how would the one months notice work, in terms of my accommodation considering there is no work for me to do? surely they can't just kick me out. what are my options please?
p.s. there is also a 10,000rmb penalty for breaking the contract early, who should pay if anyone?
many thanks
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