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Will there be any job for me, i am not a native speaker

 
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johnyu



Joined: 24 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 11:29 pm    Post subject: Will there be any job for me, i am not a native speaker Reply with quote

>Want to know a bit more about the ESL life and career in Japan or China
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>Want to ask some questions about whether i am eligible to be granted
>a job there
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>I have been in Australia for the past 8 years, both studied and worked
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>Degree in Computer Science
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>Worked as a bike salesman before, been a casual Maths tutor as well,
>worked in IT firm as a graduate IT developer before
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>Don't want to stay in Australia, want to have some relaxing life
>overseas, but do not have the money, so wanting to teach English or
>something else I can make the ends meet
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>I am not a native speaker in English, not sure how to find out what
>employers will think
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>Was born in China, but stayed in Australia for 8 years, now Australia Citizen
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>Thanks if you can give me some hints for my career outlook
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Quibby84



Joined: 10 Aug 2006
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Location: Japan

PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It might be hard in Japan...especially right now.
You could probably go to China and teach...you just have to do a job search and see what comes up. But China may be a better option for you.
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chollimaspeed



Joined: 11 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quibby84 wrote:
It might be hard in Japan...especially right now.
You could probably go to China and teach...you just have to do a job search and see what comes up. But China may be a better option for you.

Why?

What do you know about it?
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bornslippy1981



Joined: 02 Aug 2004
Posts: 271

PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quibby84 wrote:
It might be hard in Japan...especially right now.
You could probably go to China and teach...you just have to do a job search and see what comes up. But China may be a better option for you.


As the above poster asked, why do you say this?

In order for a visa to teach English in Japan you need 12 years of English education. 8 years in Australia and becoming a citizen really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.

Why would it be hard to get work in Japan now? Because Nova might close?

OP, perhaps you could find work as a Chinese teacher for Japanese wanting to study Chinese, and with your English ability, you might be able to post bulletins in Chinese explaining your qualifications and targeting Chinese people living in Japan who want to study English.

I don't know anything about China though.
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JimDunlop2



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Posts: 2286
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 4:06 am    Post subject: Re: Will there be any job for me, i am not a native speaker Reply with quote

johnyu wrote:

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>I am not a native speaker in English, not sure how to find out what
>employers will think
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>Was born in China, but stayed in Australia for 8 years, now Australia Citizen


Unfortunately, that still doesn't help us know your level of spoken English. Living in OZ for 8 years could make you fluent, but not necessarily. You may or may not have a strong accent when you speak -- I don't know. For example, my own parents have lived in Canada for just about 40 years, have gone to a Canadian university (therefore written TOEFLs), and are functionally bilungual enough to have written Masters' theses in English. They have no trouble understanding people or making themselves understood (despite having an accent). But having said that, I would NOT want them teaching conversation and grammar to my kids.

What you will find in Japan (can't speak for other places) is that your results may vary. It really does depend on your spoken fluency and accent... If the interviewer understands you without any trouble then I suspect you may be fairly successful in your queries. In the places I've worked (or my friends have worked) even if the native English speakers are not empowered to make hiring decisions, they are usually involved in the process -- as they can provide feedback as to candidates' spoken language abilities.
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